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bnichols23

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Classic shell is still available, works well, & will give you something approximating XP. (You *can* config 10 to appear/function somewhat similar to XP.) I'm a speed freak vs. bells/whistles, so power's my main concern. 8 gigs is ok, but 16 is much better, especially if you're not running the latest/greatest processor.
I wasn't familiar with start10 but I'll take a look, ignacio, tnx!
1200 baud, feh. I remember working with *300*! Moving to ANSI was Yeee-HAH! :)

 

shanez

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Unfortunately you are stuck with the latest flavor of winblows that microsoft decides they want you to have. A classic shell does make it much more palatable though and at least you aren't stuck with something worse like crapple.
Where are the penguin nerds ..
The latest version of Ubuntu LTS would work well for 90%+ of home users but installation is the issue. Getting everything to work with the variety of brands/components available these days can take some time.

 

chilipalmer

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Windows 10 is stable, mostly. I have to use it for work activities and I don't really have too much trouble with it. The real time consumer is that it does take some time to turn off all the "helpful" items that Microsoft enables by default, so, you have both a secure and streamlined installation. The other problem is that under the hood, it's still Windows98. After all this time, Microsoft really could've done more for their users.
I will also jump on the Linux bandwagon. I have used it for a decade and, today, I truly believe it is a superior platform, in every way, when compared to Windows. As shanez pointed out Ubuntu is excellent, but, does require some "hands on" to get everything running, especially wireless networking. If you're thinking about taking the plunge, I would suggest giving Linux Mint a go. It is built on Ubuntu and is every bit as stable. Linux Mint was created to provide an easier path for first timers to get Linux installed and running. In this, it has no peer. Like all Linux, Linux Mint is free. You have nothing to lose, except your ties to Microsoft.
If you want to try Ubuntu on a good computer, you can order it as the default OS from Dell on quite a few of their offerings. If you're unhappy, you can buy a copy of Windows 10 and install it. No muss. No fuss.
Give it a try!
Cheers,
Chili

 

mawnansmiff

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Well chaps, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and tips. Dan, I've looked into Acronis and it looks like it might be useful so have bookmarked the page, thanks for the pointer.
One major niggle with the new PC (which arrives tomorrow) is that though it comes with Win 10 pre-installed it comes with no recovery discs. I believe I have to create a mirror image either onto a clean pen drive or my remote hard drive. I think that stinks considering how little it would cost them to provide the discs.
This here cloud storage thing sounds very iffy to me. I just don't feel comfortable having all of my personal data stored in a place where any half educated teenaged computer whizz kid can access it. Apparently the new customer used to get 15GB of 'free' cloud storage but it's now been reduced to a mere 5GB. I'll leave it well alone.
Another comment mentioned Microsoft insisting certain things run continuously in the background, that too sounds a nuisance. As for Microsoft collecting my data by default I think that is the scariest thing of all.
So it looks like I'll have to grab the bull by the horns and just get stuck in with it. I suspect in six months time I'll be cruising along just as merrily as I was with previous versions, it's just a tad nerve unsettling for someone who hates change for change sake.
Many thanks again.
Regards,
Jay.

 
I have one Linux laptop that a friend built for me, all of the software is open source, so I can use free video and photo software and go inside the program and make changes as I need to. I can even make vector graphics and then go inside the images and fine tune colors and gradients. I just hated the idea that I spend thousands with Adobe and then they wants so much control that they can tinker with a product that I have bought and "own" just to get me to buy it again. Screw that cloud based crap. I use images to market myself, not make money off of the images. So, I am just trying this new route out.
Windows and Apple can go impale themselves for their control of their software... or APPs.

 

ignaciojn

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Jay, use a local (offline) account instead of signing in with your Microsoft account.

And during the initial setup, it will ask for your permission to a bunch of things, just turn all off.
You can also remove most of the bloatware, and delete those pesky tiles.
And don't worry about a recovery disc. It's extremely easy to download a Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft, and the drivers from the OEM site.
With little tinkering, Windows 10 can be a great experience.

 

mawnansmiff

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"And don't worry about a recovery disc. It's extremely easy to download a Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft, and the drivers from the OEM site."
But how do I get the unique product key or license number that was given to my particular PC when the operating system was installed?
I've no desire to buy another Windows 10 license if this one goes belly up.
Apologies if I'm sounding dim here :oops:
Regards,
Jay.

 

ignaciojn

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It's embedded in the BIOS (it activates automatically when you install Windows).

If you really need to write it down, you can use an application to get it: ShowKeyPlus

 

sparroa

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Windows 10 is horrific.
I turn off anything and everything related to Cortana. This makes it a little more bearable.

 

shanez

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This here cloud storage thing sounds very iffy to me.
There is no such thing as "cloud". It is just someone else's computer.
Windows and Apple can go impale themselves for their control of their software... or APPs.
Couldn't have said it better. Unfortunately cloud is not what is being pushed for, it's just a distraction. Very soon, even if you purchase a new computer, you will not own any software or operating system. You will "lease" it and you will be expected to pay a monthly fee. Microsoft is already attempting this with Office.

 

mawnansmiff

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Thanks Ignaciojn for the link, I've now saved it.
"I think you are going to be sadly disappointed in how seamless everything will be."
Warren, that is the best news I've had all day......assuming it is the case :puffy:
One worry is if my old software will still work, for example PAF5 which is an old genealogical software package (long since discontinued) supplied by the LDS Church is hugely important to me.....time will tell.
"Very soon, even if you purchase a new computer, you will not own any software or operating system. You will "lease" it and you will be expected to pay a monthly fee. Microsoft is already attempting this with Office."
I have read mutterings regarding the very same. Scary days ahead methinks :cry:
Regards,
Jay.

 

ignaciojn

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A quick Google search seems to confirm that PAF5 is compatible with Windows 10.
And if that's not the case, there's always "Compatibility Mode". If that won't work, you can set up a virtual machine or dual boot.

 

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I had to put a new hard drive in my Dell laptop earlier this year (went with a Samsung SSD). I used a $12 SATA cable from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HJZJI84

And freeware to clone the drive from my old drive, took about 2 hours, but very simple. Literally all programs on my original hard-drive were cloned to the new drive. No reinstalling software, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HJZJI84

 

tuold

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The last OS I got excited about was DOS 5. DOS Shell was awesome. That said, Windows 10 runs my games effortlessly with minimal driver overhead. It's worth taking the time to disable all the privacy invasion stuff if you are into gaming or virtual reality applications.

 
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