Most Horrifying Painting?
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I've always thought of Art as communication, intentional and unintentional. It goes nuts after that.
I like the goat sculpture cause it looks like what it is. A goat having a Faun time.
Unless you are Andy Warhol, whom I have hated since I first saw his day-glow soup cans in the third grade.
I like the goat sculpture cause it looks like what it is. A goat having a Faun time.
Unless you are Andy Warhol, whom I have hated since I first saw his day-glow soup cans in the third grade.
Cosmic, did you know that Martinez was restored by an elderly lady with the best of intentions? No one asked her, it was a surprise. Got to love it when people "help", God save us from those with good intentions.....
Which is why I find it mostly mental masturbation.
Agreed, and those elements are always fluid. Bach's manuscripts being tossed in the trash wasn't an act of vandalism, but the practice of his day. He probably tossed his predecessor's (Mahatma Khan Jeeves if memory serves) manuscripts in the trash.
Also agreed. It's that spark that separates art from artisanry. But people will disagree about that measurement. Some people think Jeff Koons is one of the greatest creators of recent times. I'm not one of them. There is art in a great meal.
Absolutely! When people ask me what a piece I've done is about I'll tell them that it doesn't matter what I think. The only thing that matters is what they experience from their encounter with it. This, BTW, is part of what I consider to be politics.
Also agree. It works because it's not a definition of what art is, but of what art does.
"Cosmic, did you know that Martinez was restored by an elderly lady with the best of intentions? No one asked her, it was a surprise."
Her restoration efforts were certainly a surprise...the guardians of the church/painting were apoplectic with rage when they saw what she had done.
Regards,
Jay.
Her restoration efforts were certainly a surprise...the guardians of the church/painting were apoplectic with rage when they saw what she had done.
Regards,
Jay.
Sometimes it gets a little suffocating on the forums.
Painting by Fabio Magalhaes
Yes, well, not so much what Art does, as how it functions. To boil the definition down to its essence, one could say that Art is a quality. "Is it Art?" "Do you make Art?" "It's a work of Art." It is a quality, by which the "craft" is separated from the ordinary or normal.. or unusual even. Using the craft, one might achieve a phenomena that elevates the object to extraordinary. :::sigh::: thus it requires the aforementioned definition to lay the groundwork for the essential definition.
All of the best things in life are more complicated than just a simple sentence to define them.
But, one is free to disagree with this definition, and that is included in the definition.
Painting by Fabio Magalhaes
Yes, well, not so much what Art does, as how it functions. To boil the definition down to its essence, one could say that Art is a quality. "Is it Art?" "Do you make Art?" "It's a work of Art." It is a quality, by which the "craft" is separated from the ordinary or normal.. or unusual even. Using the craft, one might achieve a phenomena that elevates the object to extraordinary. :::sigh::: thus it requires the aforementioned definition to lay the groundwork for the essential definition.
All of the best things in life are more complicated than just a simple sentence to define them.
But, one is free to disagree with this definition, and that is included in the definition.
The area of art that I studied with the most passion was Japanese woodcuts, as printmaking was my craft at the time. I wrote a paper on The Hag of Adachi Moor and its use of flowers and vegetation within the composition to help explain the story. The artist here illustrates the play about a woman who eats babies to stay young, but the vegetation and fruits in the scenes nearly miss our consciousness, but contain symbols of the "divine" and give a new depth to the works when you consider then in pulling the story from the images.
I am sort of desensitized to them after staring at them for so long, but they are sort of horrifying. Mmmmmmmm, babies.
I am sort of desensitized to them after staring at them for so long, but they are sort of horrifying. Mmmmmmmm, babies.
Who's disagreeing. I just use less syllables. Functions, does, same difference. Sure I could be more precise, but I prefer the beauty and elegance of abstraction. I understand that you're a recovering art historian and I admire you for it.
Ha ha, thanks Sable. I wasn't necessarily pointing that comment at you.
Yeh, part of the dissertation process is for each of us to add 100 more art historian jokes to the world's lexicon of academic humor.
Yeh, part of the dissertation process is for each of us to add 100 more art historian jokes to the world's lexicon of academic humor.
No sweat, Toob.
I remembered an exhibit I saw of Anselm Kiefer's work. Large, wall sized photographs with straw, lead, and dirt glued to them. It was all about Germanic history, Vikings, Hitler, farming, and art... and growing up in a defeated nation.
It was very disturbing, with Hitler playing with toy boats in bathtubs, and the room was filled with the smell of burned lead and dirt, and at times... well... use your imagination. Very disturbing.
It may be more of a "have to be there" sort of things. But, it was very unsettling.
I remembered an exhibit I saw of Anselm Kiefer's work. Large, wall sized photographs with straw, lead, and dirt glued to them. It was all about Germanic history, Vikings, Hitler, farming, and art... and growing up in a defeated nation.
It was very disturbing, with Hitler playing with toy boats in bathtubs, and the room was filled with the smell of burned lead and dirt, and at times... well... use your imagination. Very disturbing.
It may be more of a "have to be there" sort of things. But, it was very unsettling.
Environmental installation pieces can be very affecting. There was an installation at LACMA that replicated someone's garage, circa 1960's and you could wander around in it and open drawers and cabinets. I built one when I was a youngling at UCLA before filthy lucre and the movie business called.
Our little back and forth over language reminded me of evenings at my parent's home when my uncle Lee, my older brother Brian, and my cousin Vicky, all academicians, would get into parsing each other's language in the course of a discussion. It could take the evening to get through a sentence.
Consider this masterpiece by Delacroix, La Liberté Guidant le Peuple.
It's considered one of the greatest works of the French Romantic era. And if one has a decent liberal arts education one can recognize the classical allusions, pyramidal composition and symbolic elements, etc.
But one could also ask what's up with this broad showing off her tits to the mob? Is she some sort of sicko? Did she just do the dude lying at her feet with his knickers off? Hey, what's up with that?
Do we bring meaning to a work of art or does the work of art bring meaning to us? Is it both? Is the theatre really dead?
Our little back and forth over language reminded me of evenings at my parent's home when my uncle Lee, my older brother Brian, and my cousin Vicky, all academicians, would get into parsing each other's language in the course of a discussion. It could take the evening to get through a sentence.
Consider this masterpiece by Delacroix, La Liberté Guidant le Peuple.
It's considered one of the greatest works of the French Romantic era. And if one has a decent liberal arts education one can recognize the classical allusions, pyramidal composition and symbolic elements, etc.
But one could also ask what's up with this broad showing off her tits to the mob? Is she some sort of sicko? Did she just do the dude lying at her feet with his knickers off? Hey, what's up with that?
Do we bring meaning to a work of art or does the work of art bring meaning to us? Is it both? Is the theatre really dead?
I love it when allegory gets brought into art, because allegory is where the gods thrive. When you personify Liberty, she becomes a goddess. I've never given this one much thought, but the breasts seem to lack nipples. My first thought was that she was bearing her breasts to lead the people with the milk of liberty, or milk of the land, or whatever, but no nipples. Hmm. The kid to the far left making eye contact with us is very unnerving.
Yep, defending your dissertation is a lot like spending a week on a single sentence as well. I always thought of it as getting flogged to death with wet noodles. Each stroke doesn't hurt by itself, but after a week or two, you are begging for a quicker death.
Yep, defending your dissertation is a lot like spending a week on a single sentence as well. I always thought of it as getting flogged to death with wet noodles. Each stroke doesn't hurt by itself, but after a week or two, you are begging for a quicker death.
"Maybe Delacroix had a thing for the Bourbon nipples?"
Did he prefer them straight or with a little ice?
Regards,
Jay.
Did he prefer them straight or with a little ice?
Regards,
Jay.
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