Maybe, but I don't know that any of the companies have had a frequent problem with mold. Not enough to where we would say, "don't buy xyz, it's probably moldy."
Moldy Temple Bar
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Just my personal experience but...I have never, never once found mold in any of my tobaccos, in 26 years of smoking a pipe. I've had tins or pouches from Esoterica, Dunhill, McClelland, Rattrays, Solani, Wessex, Orlik, MacBaren, Middletons, Sutliff, G.L. Pease, Cornell & Diehl's, Murrays, House of Winsor, House of Sobranie, Ogdens, Hearth and Home, Peterson, Lane Limited, John Cottons, W.O. Larsen, Robert McConnell's, Bell's, Gallaher, Peter Stokkebye, A&C Petersen, Davidoff, Samuel Gawith, Gawith & Hoggarth, Peter Heinrich's and probably a dozen more I've forgotten! Now...maybe I've just been lucky, but to reiterate, never once in all these years have I found mold, not on opening the tin, not two years later after having jarred up tobacco myself. I've opened tins that were 40 and 50 years old, no mold! To have this many tins with mold, Carolina Red Flake, Bijou, Temple Bar etc. all from one manufacturer in short succession tells me that there is a problem that needs to be resolved. Now then, I enjoy many G.L. Pease and C&D blends and I have many tins of these two cellared already, I don't want to be constantly worried about when the shoe will drop on me next. Please, please resolve this issue and be open about the problem so we can trust that we aren't putting our money and our trust in jeopardy. Thank you.
Take this for what its worth.
When I was a kid Southern Indiana was tobacco growing country. There was a five acre field within 100 yards of our front door. The folks farmed several acres of it, enough to fill their Tobacco barn that was just down the road from us.
When they hung the tobacco leafs in the barn they always worried about mold. The old man would check every couple of days to make sure there was enough air space between the staves.
I would think that if there was a mold issue somewhere in the process, it might start there. Perhaps the tobacco in question did not get dried properly and made it past the QC process.
I don't know what type tobacco they grew back then, it was all the same. But I can't see the mold issue not being the same for most types? RH during this hanging part of the process can be a concern.
If the process tobacco retains enough moisture it might be a perfect incubator for the fuzzy little guys.
Hopefully its a short term issue and they know the cause.
When I was a kid Southern Indiana was tobacco growing country. There was a five acre field within 100 yards of our front door. The folks farmed several acres of it, enough to fill their Tobacco barn that was just down the road from us.
When they hung the tobacco leafs in the barn they always worried about mold. The old man would check every couple of days to make sure there was enough air space between the staves.
I would think that if there was a mold issue somewhere in the process, it might start there. Perhaps the tobacco in question did not get dried properly and made it past the QC process.
I don't know what type tobacco they grew back then, it was all the same. But I can't see the mold issue not being the same for most types? RH during this hanging part of the process can be a concern.
If the process tobacco retains enough moisture it might be a perfect incubator for the fuzzy little guys.
Hopefully its a short term issue and they know the cause.
And, if you ever see tobacco in the warehouses and the processing facilities, they are all just stacked leafs on palates. They'll have someone re-stack them periodically so that all of the leaves get aged under even heat within the stack. And, then someone will have to de-stem the leaves by wrapping it around their wrist as they pull the stems out. I've even seen how they will use shovels to turn piles of tobacco on the ground. But, our notions of what to do with tobaccos from jars to tins to boxes doesn't come into play until it hits the retailer's shelves.
Who knows what happened. But, I would think that if a production building ever did get mold once, the spoors would be pretty hard to get rid of. They'd pretty much have to empty it and fumigate and wash every square inch.
Who knows what happened. But, I would think that if a production building ever did get mold once, the spoors would be pretty hard to get rid of. They'd pretty much have to empty it and fumigate and wash every square inch.
I've wondered about this, too. If the leaves are already problematic when they are getting to the blenders, maybe whatever anti-fungal process C&D is using isn't enough to counteract the issue.
I was just watching some factory tours on YouTube and thought the same thing. The way we fret and so delicately handle our tobacco vs. how they store/process/shovel...
There's a lot of wild-assed supposition going on in this thread about tobacco mold. I'm not a microbiologist, and I never played one on TV, but I do know that all processed tobacco gets treated with an anti-fungal. Mycoban (calcium propionate) is the anti-fungal that Chris Tarler has stated C&D used at one time. All tobacco has mold spores on it, it is the processor's job to treat it so that they don't reproduce.
Would some kind soul please explain to this simpleton what exactly 'Red Virginia' is and how it differs from other Virginias?
Regards,
Jay.
Regards,
Jay.
Virginas come from a seed variety called Virginia Gold, except the African and dark varieties. Virginias are high in sugar, but smoked raw they bite like a pit bull. So, the sugars have to be caramelized by heating the leaf slightly over time, like slow cooking. The higher the temperature, the darker the leaf gets. Yellow, gold and orange are all lower temperatures, red is when the leaf is heated to a higher temperature, and cooked too long you get brown earthy non-sweet varieties. These are the color of the leaf right out of the flue. Flue-cured.
The leaf may change colors further in processing by the companies. So a red Virginia flake doesn't have to keep the color red. It can be brown or even black, but still be a red Virginia.
Red Virginias are the least bitey, fuller flavored, most balanced, and most highly sought after. Except to one particular forum member called Harris.
Does that help. That is a the CliffNotes version :
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The leaf may change colors further in processing by the companies. So a red Virginia flake doesn't have to keep the color red. It can be brown or even black, but still be a red Virginia.
Red Virginias are the least bitey, fuller flavored, most balanced, and most highly sought after. Except to one particular forum member called Harris.
Does that help. That is a the CliffNotes version :
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I'm glad I finished my cellar a little over a year ago. Hopefully I bought all of my C&D / GLP tins before this whole mould epidemic started. That being said, I have purchased a couple tins of the Regents Flake and Temple Bar... Fingers crossed!!!!
I live in Michigan. It's been a very humid summer, but I have air conditioning. This is the first mold issue I've ever had, and I have lots of open tins.
I bought the tins in question from SP.com, and they've already started the replacement process. I'm crossing my fingers as I've asked for another tin of Temple Bar. They're out of Regents Flake, so I requested Embarcadero.
I bought the tins in question from SP.com, and they've already started the replacement process. I'm crossing my fingers as I've asked for another tin of Temple Bar. They're out of Regents Flake, so I requested Embarcadero.
Super hot humid summer where I am too, no issues with any of my cigars, I simply didn't have to add any water to the humidor, and no mold on any of my tobacco either.
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