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beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
4,242
6,743
Central Ohio
I have tins of Gaslight that are dated 12/30/13. These tins swelled so much that 4 tins will no longer stack. They swelled within a couple months, I thought they would pop, but have stabilized. ALL GOOD! As Mr. Pease himself has stated- this is OK. That Gaslight is wonderful stuff now BTW!!!
Coyote-

First let me say that I respect your opinions, and enjoy your posts, BUT...... What you are saying above makes no sense.

A tin that's swollen in less then a month of packing can mean somehow air possibly got inside.
YES- they are NOT Vacuum packed.... There is AIR INSIDE.

If you have any swollen tins open them and give a good inspection, then transfer to small Mason/Ball jars.
If you do this, aren't you letting that "evil" air inside?? Isn't there air inside the Ball Jar??
The OP stated that he has been smoking from an open tin, which was fine, upon opening, then recently got moldy. To me this is akin to the moldy container of sour cream that everyone has found in the back of the fridge at one time or another. It would never have molded if it had not been opened........ I personally feel you are increasing your chances of mold by opening them up and jarring them..... just my 2 cents.......... :puffy:

 
May 4, 2015
3,210
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It's an organic product with a lot of "moving parts," as it were.
How is it possible to say that a swollen tin is only OK after X amount of time OR it's indicative of a problem.
but I do think some folks here seem well prepared to over-react.
Ya think?

 
Respectfully... In my experience of smoking hundreds of GLP tins old and new, swollen GLP tins are completely normal and a sign of magic happening; however, not being proof of mold nor a proof that there's NOT mold. I'm not sure about a connection between bacteria and mold. Just my experience; Just my $0.02

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,805
8,583
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
"I use a pressure cooker and I get a vacuum seal on my Mason jars for long term storage."
How on earth does that work then? You would need to be inside the pressure cooker yourself to close the jar lid once it reaches temperature to create your 'vacuum'. Or are you simply saying you just heat up the jars afore lidding, thereby negating the use of the pressure cooker in the first place as using a bain marie or even a simple bowl of hot water would be far easier.
Puzzled of Cornwall.
Regards,
Jay.

 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,391
70,250
61
Vegas Baby!!!
I have puffy tins from C&D, GL Pease, McClelland, Rattray and McCranies..........Fermentation at its finest. I'm just going to let them sit AND occasionally open one.....just to let them burn in my pipe.
Very simple. No concern. No knee-jerk. No panic.
I'm more focused on combustion.

 

krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,378
21,134
Michigan
I just saw this post after sending an email to smokingpipes about mold appearing in my tins of Regents Flake and Temple Bar. There was no apparent mold when I opened them, but it's there now in all of its fuzzy glory. FWIW, neither tin was bulging before opening.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,128
Akron area of Ohio
Kizzose said (over thundering cowbell) "I just saw this post after sending an email to smokingpipes about mold appearing in my tins of Regents Flake and Temple Bar. There was no apparent mold when I opened them, but it's there now in all of its fuzzy glory. FWIW, neither tin was bulging before opening."
Did those tobaccos remain in their tins or did you transfer them to jars?
Mike S.

 

krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,378
21,134
Michigan
Mike: they were both in their original tins and I was actively smoking them. Other open tins in the vicinity have been opened, smoked from and otherwise manipulated with no mold issues, so I'm pretty confident there wasn't any sort of cross contamination.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,128
Akron area of Ohio
Again, over thundering cowbell, "Mike: they were both in their original tins and I was actively smoking them. Other open tins in the vicinity have been opened, smoked from and otherwise manipulated with no mold issues, so I'm pretty confident there wasn't any sort of cross contamination,"
Well that's not good.
Mike S.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,128
Akron area of Ohio
A minor mold issue is

Like being a little bit pregnant IMHO.

These recent revelations of mold in several blends don't leave me all warm and fuzzy...pun intended.

Mike S.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,341
Carmel Valley, CA
I just saw this post after sending an email to smokingpipes about mold appearing in my tins of Regents Flake and Temple Bar. There was no apparent mold when I opened them, but it's there now in all of its fuzzy glory. FWIW, neither tin was bulging before opening.
What's the humidity level where you live?

 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,391
70,250
61
Vegas Baby!!!
Jpm, that's the real deal actually. Here in the Desert Southwest a high humidity number is 20% but typically it's only 5-10%.
Advice on storage and care of a cellar is relative, as in relative humidity.

 

andrew

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,086
494
Winnipeg, Canada
I'm no expert but I don't think outside humidity is going to play a role in mould growth when proper use of anti-fungal agents are used. Samual Gawaith products and McClellend's flakes both come extremely moist yet I've never heard of a problem as widespread with mould as there has been with C&D. Plus the fact in london it's known for being relatively humid yet this old tobacco house where they make the Gawaith tobacco's doesn't seem to have this widespread problem with mould. We've had company people related to C&D chime in that this problem has been taken care of, it's being overblown as it's a small pipe community, and several other excuses that don't seem to actually acknowledge the fact that "houston, we have a problem". When someone has 10 tins of a product and 2 of them they open have mould, to me that is a stunningly high fail rate, no matter how close knit a community it is. Also the fact people are opening seemingly okay tins that then go mouldy is very problematic. I have not heard of this happening on such a huge scale as any other brand. I really think this is something that's been dealt with in an uneffective manner by the company and they are going to feel the wrath of capitalism very soon.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,238
119,156
Chasingembers had the only 2 moldy tins of bijou, the mould problem with C&D has been taken care of.
I only publicly complained about the first two.

 

jefff

Lifer
May 28, 2015
1,915
6
Chicago
Ok.....well then.....is it too late for Greg and Mike McNeil to be friends?
Also... this seems to be a relatively recent development. What's changed?

 

skraps

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 9, 2015
790
6
I don't disagree with Andy that this may be a larger scale problem than was initially thought. That being said, when C&D identified that they had an issue with a specific red VA they were using, I wonder if there was a realization as to how many blends that red VA was used in.
The problem may simply be one of scale vs. negligence. None the less, it appears that it continues to linger and something must be done.
P.S. - Scrolling through this thread again, it seems that there are some posts missing. Looks like our buddy Coyote has become one of the dreaded Anonymous members. Whose Wheaties did he piss in now?

 
I've never heard of red Virginias in general molding any easier than other tobaccos, so I would just guess, from just what you guys have said, that they may have had an issue with a batch of tobacco, that just happened to be red Virginias. Otherwise, if reds mold any more easily, my whole cellar is in jeopardy,ha ha.
Mr. Pease and C&D have always seemed to be stand up businessmen, so I trust the branding enough that they will do good by their customers as the need arises.
It's unfortunate for you guys that did get mold though. Hopefully these companies do good by you.

 
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