Massive Tax Increase Proposed for All Tobacco

[homesteader]

I just heard about this one on Facebook. Here is the text from the web page, and if you click on the link it allows you to send an email to your senators protesting this. A 1,650% tax increase on pipe tobacco would just be prohibitive for me and a lot of pipe smokers.

Oppose Federal Tax Increase on Premium Cigars & Pipe Tobacco​

Senator Durbin (D-IL) has reintroduced a massive tobacco tax increase as part of a bill that is otherwise intended to address maternal mortality. Buried within S. 411, the Mothers and Offspring Mortality and Morbidity Awareness Act (MOMMA’s Act), are changes to the tax code that would treat the entire tobacco industry as cigarettes. The result is an estimated 500% - 1000% increase on the tax for premium cigars (depending on size) and a 1650% increase on the tax for pipe tobacco!
A tax this big isn’t just lost profit.This bill will raise the costs for manufacturers, retailers, and consumers. Jobs, businesses, and ability to buy and enjoy a premium cigar will be at risk. Take action now by letting your US Senators know that S.411 (MOMMA’s Act) shouldn’t be paid for on the back of a single industry!

Oppose Federal Tax Increase on Premium Cigars & Pipe Tobacco - https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl.fastly.net/messages/edit?promo_id=12153

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Wow, sounds like if this bill was proposed not in the U.S but somewhere in Scandinavian countries ,,

 

[briarbuck]

They are going to need to find somebody else's money somewhere. Not surprising.

 

[BROBS]

They are going to need to find somebody else's money somewhere. Not surprising.

Got any extra tea at your party?

 

[3rdguy]

I signed it but it would make my Cult Blood Red Moon worth $40 a tin when I flip it.

 

[fightnhampster]

Did some digging and it looks like it died in the previous congress.

MOMMA’s Act (2019 - H.R. 1897)

To improve Federal efforts with respect to the prevention of maternal mortality, and for other purposes.

www.govtrack.us

However, this is the type of thing I think we will see in the future.

 

[BROBS]

I signed it but it would make my Cult Blood Red Moon worth $40 a tin when I flip it.

FS: 1 barely used pouch of Velvet $45 pm me

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Yeh, I googled it too, and it's on old dead bill. I didn't initially say anything, because I figured it was drummed up just for forum fun.

 

[saltedplug]

Such a bill is extreme, far more punitive than anything passed heretofore. Could it really find the support in Congress to pass unless some sweet, juicy political expedient/financial came with it.

 

[homesteader]

Sorry, I thought this was new when I posted it. I did a web search but didn't catch that it was in the last Congress.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Sorry, I thought this was new when I posted it. I did a web search but didn't catch that it was in the last Congress.

No problem. I sometimes will get sparked by an outdated post and do the exact same thing.
There has to be hundreds of bills that end up in the trash before they ever make it to the floor all the time. Crazy stuff. Rookie senators and Representatives on both sides will start off with some crazy stuff. I'm never surprised when I read that this or that stupid idea was entered for submission, and half the time stupid ideas are allowed on the floor, just to keep things from being boring or for their own amusement.

 

[bullet08]

Good thing I still have most of Granger in the tub. That thing will last till I die.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Bring it on.

 

[homesteader]

It does look like the GAO became aware of the "disparity" in taxes on different forms of tobacco as early as 2012. the GAO recommended pipe tobacco be taxed the same as RYO tobacco. This 2019 report noted Congress has taken no action on this. Tobacco Taxes: Market Shifts toward Lower-Taxed Products Continue to Reduce Federal Revenue - https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-19-467

 

[mingc]

Did some digging and it looks like it died in the previous congress.

MOMMA’s Act (2019 - H.R. 1897)

To improve Federal efforts with respect to the prevention of maternal mortality, and for other purposes.

www.govtrack.us

However, this is the type of thing I think we will see in the future.

Sorry, I thought this was new when I posted it. I did a web search but didn't catch that it was in the last Congress.

It's been reintroduced: Text - S.411 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): MOMMA’s Act - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/411/text
I think we should all get used to the idea that pipe tobacco will one day be sold for the same price as caviar.

 

[fireground_piper]

(b) Tax parity for pipe tobacco.—Section 5701(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking “$2.8311 cents” and inserting “$49.56”.

That's per pound.

 

[Old School 3319]

Makes me ashamed of my state.

 

[fightnhampster]

Sorry, I thought this was new when I posted it. I did a web search but didn't catch that it was in the last Congress.

No worries at all. I would rather something like this happen than have something slide under the radar that we might miss

 

[fightnhampster]

As always boys, cellar wide and deep. Even if a blend make it through the deeming, they will never ever be this cheap and readily available again.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I think we should all get used to the idea that pipe tobacco will one day be sold for the same price as caviar.

Only if you still have to buy it.