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Choatecav

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This Marxman arrived today and sadly it has a crack the seller did not mention all the way through the bowl. BummerView attachment 359862View attachment 359863
That is a low down thing for the seller to do.....
I would note his misrepresentation on eBay.

I once bought a pipe there and when I received it there was a horrendous crack. I immediately messaged him with pictures, and he had the gaul to say that "hmmmm, don't know what could have happened in shipping to cause that. It wasn't there when I shipped it." I pushed it and he refunded my money.
I went back to all of the photos that he posted and each "conveniently" were taken at an angle that hid the crack.
 

towhee89

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That is a low down thing for the seller to do.....
I would note his misrepresentation on eBay.

I once bought a pipe there and when I received it there was a horrendous crack. I immediately messaged him with pictures, and he had the gaul to say that "hmmmm, don't know what could have happened in shipping to cause that. It wasn't there when I shipped it." I pushed it and he refunded my money.
I went back to all of the photos that he posted and each "conveniently" were taken at an angle that hid the crack.
That is a low down thing for the seller to do.....
I would note his misrepresentation on eBay.

I once bought a pipe there and when I received it there was a horrendous crack. I immediately messaged him with pictures, and he had the gaul to say that "hmmmm, don't know what could have happened in shipping to cause that. It wasn't there when I shipped it." I pushed it and he refunded my money.
I went back to all of the photos that he posted and each "conveniently" were taken at an angle that hid the crack.

Indeed. This seller may have missed it because it was indeed visible from his very blurry pics but there was no way to tell, unless you knew what to look for. When I unboxed it I saw it immediately , and it turns it goes thru the bowl all the way. I messaged the seller politely and showed photos. I just wouldn't have bought it if I knew this, so unless he lets me keep it and refunds me I'll be sending it back. If he does I'll just smoke it or display.

Second time in a week this has happened! But mostly my eBay buys are all good, but when trouble hits it comes in threes. So I'm wondering, what next :)
 

dd57chevy

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There are disreputable sellers on E-bay , I've never met one though . I bet I've bought a hundred various items , no problems .
I don't know the particulars , but if , say , it was listed by an absent -minded widow , I wouldn't go all Jack Reacher on her...........
 
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towhee89

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There are disreputable sellers on E-bay , I've never met one though . I bet I've bought a hundred various items , no problems .
I don't know the particulars , but if , say , it was listed by an absent -minded widow , I wouldn't go all Jack Reacher on her...........

I'm not. I sell too so I understand how it goes, because I've experienced every kind of scammy buyer. The only incident involving pipes that I did get sorta peeved was when I requested this seller to cancel my order, and they created a shipping label just to deny it. I ended up leaving a negative and he got it removed and all the while still ignored me. I have no mercy on those guys !

I got a Sutliff Select (probably by Comoy) Canadian shaped pipe for free, because the rim was charred down a lot and hard to tell at all from pics. They didn't mention it and owned up to their mistake. I would have taken a partial refund there, as they're hard to find...
 
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Zamora

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Another 1950 Marxman catalog with shape charts, carved pipes, tobacco and much more....didn't see this posted, thanks to the archived Chris Keene pages...
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I didn't know there was Marxman tobacco, I wonder if they actually made it or had a blending house make it like most tobacco brands named after pipe brands do today. Didn't know anybody did paint can tins other than LJ Peretti either
 

Grangerous

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I've got a lot of laughs from his user name and posts !

BTW, is Granger still good? Swr has gone down the tubes. I really need some Granger to mix up my PA or CH / 5 Brothers mix
All of my Granger are the big cans. I’ve not purchased any in the newer 7 ounce cans. I would however assume it’s only the packaging that has changed. Still blended by STG.
 

towhee89

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I didn't know there was Marxman tobacco, I wonder if they actually made it or had a blending house make it like most tobacco brands named after pipe brands do today. Didn't know anybody did paint can tins other than LJ Peretti either

Absolutely no idea there. I found what the blend of Kaywoodie Pipe tobacco was from an ad, but nothing on Marxman. I'll see if I can dig up some vintage tin photos on worthpoint. I thought quite a few folks used those paint can style tins back then, but those tops look interesting.
 
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Briar Lee

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Briar Lee

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I didn't know there was Marxman tobacco, I wonder if they actually made it or had a blending house make it like most tobacco brands named after pipe brands do today. Didn't know anybody did paint can tins other than LJ Peretti either

After the war Robert Marx spent over $200,000 (3.2 million present day) a year advertising Mello, Benchmade, Jumbo, Super Grain, and (sometimes) 400 series pipes.

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The average drug store price of a pipe in 1946 was about a dollar.

There never was any Marxman tobacco when Marx was in charge, I think is a safe assumption.

$2.50 a pound was outrageous. In 1954 that would be $30 a pound in our money. And the customer didn’t even get a description.

Other blends maxed out at about half that price.

There are no Benchmade or Jumbo or 400 series pipes in the catalog. Everything except the $5 figurals are machine made in a slew of shapes. The customer cannot chose a $5, $7.50, $10, or $15 size.

Unless those are on some missing pages at the end, which is strange. Marx was built on Benchmades and Jumbos, the more money the bigger. In my catalogs they were advertised near the front. The Dunsboros and Mellos and Select Grains were cheaper (relatively) pipes that were stained.

Only the $10 Deluxe, obviously machine made in dozens of shapes, is listed as “virgin”. All previous $5 and up Marxman pipes were unstained. They were ultra luxury products.

That’s a Mastercraft era catalog, I’ll bet.

Maybe the last one.

Somebody had to sell off the old stocks of briar and shut off the lights forever, you know?

Eventually they read Made in France and Algerian Briar.

Those must have been “transitional” Marxman pipes, made of Pre 54 briar in New York, but not full Monte Robert Marx era Marxman pipes.

At least one of Marx’s carvers named Cowan started his own pipe company. He could have bought out the remaining stock of old briar.

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There was a sharp and brief recession in 1953-4 that corresponded with the sale to Mastercraft and the start of the Algerian War of Indepence.


Mastercraft likely gave a pink slip to everybody earning decent money.
 
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towhee89

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After the war Robert Marx spent over $200,000 (3.2 million present day) a year advertising Mello, Benchmade, Jumbo, Super Grain, and (sometimes) 400 series pipes.

View attachment 368391


The average drug store price of a pipe in 1946 was about a dollar.

There never was any Marxman tobacco when Marx was in charge, I think is a safe assumption.

$2.50 a pound was outrageous. In 1954 that would be $30 a pound in our money. And the customer didn’t even get a description.

Other blends maxed out at about half that price.

There are no Benchmade or Jumbo or 400 series pipes in the catalog. Everything except the $5 figurals are machine made in a slew of shapes. The customer cannot chose a $5, $7.50, $10, or $15 size.

Unless those are on some missing pages at the end, which is strange. Marx was built on Benchmades and Jumbos, the more money the bigger. In my catalogs they were advertised near the front.

That’s a Mastercraft era catalog, I’ll bet.

Maybe the last one.

The scans were from Chris Keenes site, and he put it as 1950. That's all the images in the set, a few I may have boinked the order up because attaching things here in order with a ton of photos gets tough to keep sequentially correct. However in the 1946 catalog the 400 is certainly there. It could be from later? I double checked my images again and didn't see the 400.
 

Briar Lee

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The scans were from Chris Keenes site, and he put it as 1950. That's all the images in the set, a few I may have boinked the order up because attaching things here in order with a ton of photos gets tough to keep sequentially correct. However in the 1946 catalog the 400 is certainly there. It could be from later? I double checked my images again and didn't see the 400.

Historical dating is often much better than whatever somebody guessed at or around the time.

There is a locally famous photograph of the Humansville Station that our local historian “Popcorn” Mary Owens wrote 1910 Waiting to see Taft.

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Those are the veterans of the Battle of Nashville who scattered Roman Nose at Broadus, and their darling wives and sturdy sons and lovely daughters. They are all Christian Church members, and the men all Grangers and Grand Army of the Republic. Every member of my family is there. They would not have pissed on Taft.:)

But if you put that photo back in 1904 when Teddy Roosevelt is running for reelection then it all makes perfect sense. Teddy wasn’t even going to slow down, his train has the high ball.

And by 1910 my family had a 1908 Ford Model T car. There are no cars in the photo.

Popcorn Mary lived almost forever, until age 104.

She did a lot of extremely valuable preservation.

But she was not infallible, especially in her later years.

This “1910” photo is of the 1929 hospital and community building, for example. And see the radio tower?

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Robert Marx did not try to peddle a pound of generic tobacco for the price of a Dunsboro.

Robert Marx spent 100,000 Dunsboros a year advertising Benchmades and Jumbos.

It would be like a proud veteran of the 12th Missouri Volunteer United States Cavalry (black horse) waving at Taft’s train roaring by full of fat cats and millionaires. It simply would not happen.:)
 
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towhee89

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Sep 28, 2021
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Morganton, North Carolina
After the war Robert Marx spent over $200,000 (3.2 million present day) a year advertising Mello, Benchmade, Jumbo, Super Grain, and (sometimes) 400 series pipes.

View attachment 368391


The average drug store price of a pipe in 1946 was about a dollar.

There never was any Marxman tobacco when Marx was in charge, I think is a safe assumption.

$2.50 a pound was outrageous. In 1954 that would be $30 a pound in our money. And the customer didn’t even get a description.

Other blends maxed out at about half that price.

There are no Benchmade or Jumbo or 400 series pipes in the catalog. Everything except the $5 figurals are machine made in a slew of shapes. The customer cannot chose a $5, $7.50, $10, or $15 size.

Unless those are on some missing pages at the end, which is strange. Marx was built on Benchmades and Jumbos, the more money the bigger. In my catalogs they were advertised near the front. The Dunsboros and Mellos and Select Grains were cheaper (relatively) pipes that were stained.

Only the $10 Deluxe, obviously machine made in dozens of shapes, is listed as “virgin”. All previous $5 and up Marxman pipes were unstained. They were ultra luxury products.

That’s a Mastercraft era catalog, I’ll bet.

Maybe the last one.

Somebody had to sell off the old stocks of briar and shut off the lights forever, you know?

Eventually they read Made in France and Algerian Briar.

Those must have been “transitional” Marxman pipes, made of Pre 54 briar in New York, but not full Monte Robert Marx era Marxman pipes.

At least one of Marx’s carvers named Cowan started his own pipe company. He could have bought out the remaining stock of old briar.

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There was a sharp and brief recession in 1953-4 that corresponded with the sale to Mastercraft and the start of the Algerian War of Indepence.


Mastercraft likely gave a pink slip to everybody earning decent money.

Had no idea about these, but now I do :) Nice pipe !