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chilllucky

Lifer
Jul 15, 2018
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Chicago, IL, USA
scoosa.com
Where to go to scratch this itch has a lot to do with what particular aspect(s) of masculinity you feel the need to highlight/reinforce in your own life.

If you're looking for a place to be crass and/or complain about your wife, there's dive bars everywhere.

If physical strength is a virtue for you, start or join an exercise group with others of your ability/stature. Be it at a gym, or an amateur pond hockey club or whatever.

If you want a more intellectual pursuit without the worry of having to impress/not offend ladies, I'm sure men-only book clubs exist.

If showing strength of character is part of your manly ideal, volunteer some time as a peer counselor for whatever demographic you feel the most identity with. Ask the coordinator to put you with men.

If you just want to be passively in a mono-gendered environment, try becoming a regular a sauna/bath house.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,660
31,230
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Let me get this straight.
You're complaining about constantly being surrounded by women?
Do you realize that you're King of the Amazons?
Or at least a fatherly figure with office offspring as numerous as Moses?
It's all good. Enjoy the ride.
Or if you really hell bent on male companionship, commit a crime that will land you in a penitentiary LOL!.
After having worked in an office where I was a full third of the male population I can say I figured out so much. Woman in that situation can get just as bad as some guys. They put bets on if I'd hook up with the intern (who didn't talk to anyone really any more then she had to), and that's the whole reason they hand her off to me.
What I am saying isn't that it's so bad. I am saying we need more eunuchs. Plus I hear they can really sing.
 

unadoptedlamp

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 19, 2014
742
1,370
Some... interesting responses here.

My friendships are a foundation in my life and are one of the great pleasures of living for me.

I suppose the trick is that having friends is simply a state of mind. Easily changed to one end of the spectrum or another, if you want it to be that way.

For anyone who may be socially awkward, I could see it being a challenge to meet people and acquire friendship. But, it really is a skill that can be learned by almost anyone.

My friends are male and female and cover a wide range of 'political', social, and cultural backgrounds, not to mention a massive spread in ages.

Being exposed to all of that has given me an amazing, profound experience of life so far. People have a lot to share.

Wow. Without it, I shudder to think of what I would have missed out on.

Aside from a few obvious outliers here, my experience is that most people want to be friends. All you have to do is say hello and take it from there with an open mind.

Having an open mind and not being quick to judge people is most of the equation, I think. Once that happens, I think most people who don't have friends would quickly learn that most of us have much, much more in common than divides us.

Some people are quite skilled at building up walls to keep their ideas protected and free from challenge. Maybe there is a fear of being vulnerable as well. I guess I just don't have that in me.

I don't agree with all of my friends all of the time, but we respect each other, and in that small act that is easy to do, a very interesting thing happens!

So, I'd say, if you want to have more friends, it's not necessary to join clubs or such, though it would certainly help. You just need to say hello, let some water flow under the bridge, and then see what rises to the top. If you do it with an open mind, you'll probably find a lot of very complex, interesting people with a lot to share.
 
May 9, 2021
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Geoje Island South Korea
After working in an office full of them and seeing AND experiencing how vicious they can be, not only would I complain, I'd want out. "Toxic masculinity" is a joke; now Toxic FEMINITY is dreadfully real.
You're not wrong.
I was seconded to the head office of a large oil major, ways back when. Our department was, in fact the whole floor, was all ex off-shore sea going personnel, all males, there were a few females there, not ex sea staff, but admins, etc. But the "banter" between the men was great.
One day, one of the ladies was watering the office plants, of which there were a few cacti. My line manager at the time jokingly said to the lady, "mind you don't get pricked". Could've been taken in two ways, however she decided to take offence over the comment. Straight to the HR dept. and complained. Next thing, my line manager is getting a severe reprimand, for a tongue in cheek comment.
Unfortunately, this kind of thing has crept into all of society, were somebody will take offence in the simplest of statements, and play the victim. It's pathetic.

Anyway, I tend to spend most of my time, like others here enjoying my own company. I do wish there was a pipe club I could attend, which I have tried, but failed to get any interest generated in, to meet with like minded folk and put the world to rights.

I'm not into going out much, as I used to as a younger man, with FOMO. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the company of others, but there comes a time when I just want to be alone, having a pipe and a drink.
 

unadoptedlamp

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 19, 2014
742
1,370
"mind you don't get pricked". Could've been taken in two ways
Taken in two ways?

It's a stupid joke for one, and most likely the ten-thousandth sexualized comment directed at her in a lifetime. Ask your female friends if that ever becomes tiresome.

But, no doubt if there was a gay man constantly making sexualized comments to the guys, they would all just take it 'tongue in cheek'.

Har, har, har...
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,299
18,317
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
I seriously differentiate between "friend" and "acquaintance". Friends require serious commitments. Acquaintances I might dine with and always nod or wave to. Friends? I tend to cater to friends and do for them as needed or requested. I have many acquaintances I socialize with and interact with on the web or around town. For me, friendship means responsibilities and unspoken obligations are involved. I have few "friends" and treasure those friendships.
 
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beargreasediet

Can't Leave
Nov 23, 2021
302
2,503
The Prairie
In its entirety its speaking of idol chatter. Many biblical female teachers and prophets and the resurrection was proclaimed by women.
Yes, to a point. Prophets yes, teachers to the church at large. not so much. Would also reference the last half of 2Timmy2 to paint the fuller picture.

Wholeheartedly agree regarding about the idol chatter. It is a big problem and is not gender exclusive; however there are inherent differences, strengths, weaknesses and a natural order... And it is a more straightforward matter to rebuke a man who has stepped out of his place than it is a women.
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,166
14,978
The Arm of Orion
I seriously differentiate between "friend" and "acquaintance". Friends require serious commitments. Acquaintances I might dine with and always nod or wave to. Friends? I tend to cater to friends and do for them as needed or requested. I have many acquaintances I socialize with and interact with on the web or around town. For me, friendship means responsibilities and unspoken obligations are involved. I have few "friends" and treasure those friendships.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
44,906
117,136
Yes, to a point. Prophets yes, teachers to the church at large. not so much. Would also reference the last half of 2Timmy2 to paint the fuller picture.

Wholeheartedly agree regarding about the idol chatter. It is a big problem and is not gender exclusive; however there are inherent differences, strengths, weaknesses and a natural order... And it is a more straightforward matter to rebuke a man who has stepped out of his place than it is a women.
Also a completely different culture and era. In its entirety it explains itself much better than trying to make a point with a chosen verse.
 
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May 9, 2021
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Taken in two ways?

It's a stupid joke for one, and most likely the ten-thousandth sexualized comment directed at her in a lifetime. Ask your female friends if that ever becomes tiresome.

But, no doubt if there was a gay man constantly making sexualized comments to the guys, they would all just take it 'tongue in cheek'.

Har, har, har...
Well yes. Was kinda my point.
 

Hovannes

Can't Leave
Dec 28, 2021
355
851
Fresno, CA
Take up a male dominated hobby like the aforementioned trap shooting, or golf, or a chess club, or perhaps recreational basketball/baseball leagues
 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,392
70,232
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Vegas Baby!!!
Well, since my career has led me to believe that most people suck, and by suck I mean are disingenuous piles of steaming shit, I really don’t socialize outside this forum and I barely am here most days.

I absolutely have interests. I absolutely love some humans.

But my career keeps me busy and I travel enough at the last minute that scheduling events or activities is like hearding cats.

As crazy as it seams, I understand some people need more contact and interaction so extend yourself.
 

Sam Gamgee

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 24, 2022
649
1,696
50
DFW, Texas
Also a completely different culture and era. In its entirety it explains itself much better than trying to make a point with a chosen verse.
Culture, yes, but not era. It's the same era we are living in now: the post-Resurrection one, which is why everything he wrote to those Christians is still studied and applied by all Christians now. Or ignored.
 

BriarBrook

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 8, 2022
255
1,235
Missouri
I have 3 sons who still live under my roof, so i don't really need any more "male bonding outlets". We shoot together, hunt together, and the oldest one has just started smoking now that he's 20. That being said, I am working on a Catholic men's smoking group that discusses theology and Chesterton on the side...
 

Sam Gamgee

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 24, 2022
649
1,696
50
DFW, Texas
I have 3 sons who still live under my roof, so i don't really need any more "male bonding outlets". We shoot together, hunt together, and the oldest one has just started smoking now that he's 20. That being said, I am working on a Catholic men's smoking group that discusses theology and Chesterton on the side...
Big Chesterton fan here, though not Catholic.