Stop being such a blackguard...
Lovat: Is it a Pipe Shape or a Stem Shape?
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I prefer the saddle stemmed billiard. That and a half bent billiard are by far my best smoking tools.
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The Lovat is one of my very favorite shapes. But the Liverpool is too. I find the non saddle stems on Castello 12’s (Liverpool) I have owned over the years to be as comfortable as those on 14 and 75’s. Same comparison would hold true with Radice.
Some stems are well made. Some aren’t. What might be a well made stem to me might not be to you, or vice versa.
Some stems are well made. Some aren’t. What might be a well made stem to me might not be to you, or vice versa.
Ok, I just have to ask...were the terms Blasphemous Ribald Obscene Blackgaurd Scatshow chosen intentionally or was that a subconscious composition?
For the OP, my only pipe from the Canadian family is a Lumberman with odd proportions...which apparently disqualifies it from being true Lumberman, but it's an interesting specimen nevertheless.
Because I poke back and it’s all in good fun. At least I think ?
I wish we had taglines under our sn I’d change mine to that.
Is the shank round? If so, it’s a lovat.
Lovats also seem to often have slightly shorter shanks than Canadians/lumbermen.
That could almost be a billiard with a shank that is borderline too short for a Lumberman. Then again, is an oval shank billiard still a billiard?
Yes, there are oval shanked billiards. But if the shank is longer than the bowl is tall it’s not a billiard.
IMO technically it’s a lumberman.
Good question. I never knew there were any hard and fast rules about it, but apparently it's supposed to have certain proportions. As far as I'm concerned it's a Lumberman, and that's what Altinay called it. But that status was disputed here once before due to it's less than ideal proportions.
A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.... er, wait...
What're the dimensions on yours again? It might be just within canonical dimensions for a Lumberman.
Bowl Height 57.5 mm 2.26 inch
Length 172 mm 6.77 inch
Chamber Diameter 21 mm 0.83 inch
Chamber Depth 48 mm 1.89 inch
Bowl Width 39 mm 1.54 inch
So, the stem is 133 mm long? If so, it's a Lumberman: 133 mm > (58 mm) * 2.
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You know, I got those dimensions from the listing on their site...but I just measured it myself and it is not correct.
The bowl dimensions are pretty close...but the total pipe length is 6.25 inches. The shank is 2.5 inches and the stem is a little over 2.25 inches.
EDIT: I don't do mm. That's Canadian stuff.
4.75" is still > 4.52".
Bear in mind, I'm calling "stem" the whole part from the spot it joins the bowl to the tip. What others call stem I call the "mouthpiece". So, to me shank + mouthpiece = stem.
Aaaand, others claim that the mouthpiece doesn't count in terms of judging dimensions to group pipes into a category. So, to them, your pipe is a mere billiard with a saddle stem.
OK, I guess I was wrong all along ? :
Yeah, the mouthpiece doesn't count, it's the wood alone that must meet the specified dimensions.
Makes sense, though, otherwise even my Prince would be in the Canadian family.
Yeah, the mouthpiece doesn't count, it's the wood alone that must meet the specified dimensions.
Makes sense, though, otherwise even my Prince would be in the Canadian family.