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hoosierpipeguy

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I have grown to love Va/Oriental blends lately, I unfortunately also can't stand the taste of Latakia...

I really like GLP Embarcadero, GLP Cairo, GLP Regents Flake, Low Country Natural Virginia and Oriental, and C&D Oriental Silk ...I've been exploring the Va/Or realm this year and it's been a lovely ride.

I think I might have to try Bijou sometime soon, I have a feeling it is probably still pretty good even w/o the suggested 10-15 years age. ...would also love to try the Watch City offerings but feel like they can be hard to come by.
I'm smoking some now with three years age and it is very good. It was good fresh, just a little rough around the edges. Don't over look Sunday Picnic. And most of the VaOr blends from WCC are generally available. Persian Slipper is quite nice.
 

rushx9

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And most of the VaOr blends from WCC are generally available. Persian Slipper is quite nice.
Does Ernie make any oriental forward blends without burley? I assume when black Cavendish is listed as an ingredient in WCC blends, that it's a burley based cav as well..
I doubt the OP would mind either way, but I've hesitated on WCC because of an aversion to light burley and American style Cavendish.
 

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mparker762

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Appreciate the recommendations everyone. It was harder than I thought to find Oriental blends without the Latakia. Just ordered Sunday Picnic, GL Pease Embarcadero and Cornell & Diehl's Bijou which seems especially interesting.
McConnell Ready Rubbed is another one, it's just virginia and oriental, no latakia.
 

hoosierpipeguy

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Does Ernie make any oriental forward blends without burley? I assume when black Cavendish is listed as an ingredient in WCC blends, that it's a burley based cav as well..
I doubt the OP would mind either way, but I've hesitated on WCC because of an aversion to light burley and American style Cavendish.

I don't know. I don't pay that much attention to the ingredients as long as there's no Latakia.
 

SpookedPiper

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WCC Persian Slipper is fantastic and affordable.
How much Latakia is in the slipper? I really enjoy WCC blends, especially old Dominion, but Latakia in most blends is just too Smokey. The only blend with Latakia that was semi-enjoyable was skiff mixture the froggy and pirate kake have just been sitting in their jars.. waiting...maybe for Christmas exchange...
 

LongHairDontCare

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My favorites from what I’ve found and tried are Sunday picnic, embarcadero, and regents flake. Then for one with just a little bit of Latakia, Presbyterian. But the Presbyterian is absolutely worth trying, even if you don’t like Latakia. If you can handle just a smidge more Latakia, C&Ds plantation evening is really good.
 

hoosierpipeguy

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How much Latakia is in the slipper? I really enjoy WCC blends, especially old Dominion, but Latakia in most blends is just too Smokey. The only blend with Latakia that was semi-enjoyable was skiff mixture the froggy and pirate kake have just been sitting in their jars.. waiting...maybe for Christmas exchange...

It must be very minimal because I like this blend.
 
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odobenus

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A friend recently sent me some Savinelli Brunello Flake (Va/Bur/Or), and it's kind of my new favorite thing. The tin note is particularly lovely. My palate keeps expecting to taste Lat, and I find that the Macedonian leaf is really clarified without it.
 

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A friend recently sent me some Savinelli Brunello Flake (Va/Bur/Or), and it's kind of my new favorite thing. The tin note is particularly lovely. My palate keeps expecting to taste Lat, and I find that the Macedonian leaf is really clarified without it.
Fantastic tobacco, that one. Agree on the tin note, although I wish it transfered to the taste a bit more.
 
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jiminks

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Good to know, I picked up the WCC simply VA/oriental sometime ago and wonder if they just added Latakia to it to make the slipper? Sure @jiminks would know, might not tell but he would know!😜

I will add the slipper to the cart and see if i can tell?!

Thanks.
Simply Va/Oriental is as much my formula as it is Ernie's, and none of his blends were a base for it. Ernie had the initial idea, and we had a back and forth with it for six one before a final version was approved by both of us.
 

shanez

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How much Latakia is in the slipper? I really enjoy WCC blends, especially old Dominion, but Latakia in most blends is just too Smokey. The only blend with Latakia that was semi-enjoyable was skiff mixture the froggy and pirate kake have just been sitting in their jars.. waiting...maybe for Christmas exchange...
To echo @hoosierpipeguy it's a small amount. It's there but it's nothing like Balkan Supreme or other blends.

To me, it helps round out the blend and make it "more" for lack of a better term.

Their Old Dominion is my favorite blend of theirs. Even more than Rougaroux.
 
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SpookedPiper

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To echo @hoosierpipeguy it's a small amount. It's there but it's nothing like Balkan Supreme or other blends.

To me, it helps round out the blend and make it "more" for lack of a better term.

Their Old Dominion is my favorite blend of theirs. Even more than Rougaroux.

Oh, the Latakia is definitely in there not like some of the heavier blends but definitely noticable for me. It's just over the condiment limit for me. I guess it's because it's in none of the blends I usually smoke, it's nice for a change of pace and helps understand blends better in general.
Simply Va/Oriental is as much my formula as it is Ernie's, and none of his blends were a base for it. Ernie had the initial idea, and we had a back and forth with it for six one before a final version was approved by both of us.
Thanks for the back story, still need to smoke them to formulate an opinion besides the obvious of the Latakia and that different blends used between the two blends.

IMO Watch city cigars has the best house blends nation wide would gladly take WCC stash to a deserted island in the tobaccolypse!
 
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