Loewe

[ChuckMijo]

Well I will throw a softball out here. It’s not mine. Thought I’d share it. Vintage Loewe & Co. Peel Canadian estate briar smoking pipe London Haymarket era | eBay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/333879982209

 

[captainsousie]

In the words of George Takei, "oh my." It's a pretty one at that. In my opinion, not quite a old as they claim but still worth every penny.

 

[greeneyes]

I think the sans serif LOEWE and encircled "made in England" make it rather a later pipe. I wouldn't pay that much.

 

[Simplicity]

I seen this one yesterday, too. I believe @captainsousie is correct in that it is not as old as the date range provided in the description. While there is a lack of a series name, picture #10 shows a 'L&Co' on the stem. In my experience, stem logos were only done after 1956. I had hallmarked pipes from 1940 and 1950 with no logo on the stem. I also had half a dozen Late Haymarket, all with stem logos. With no three digit code on it, I would say 1956-1964.

 

[ChuckMijo]

I agree it’s after 55. It almost looks unsmoked. I don’t know. I love my Loewe pipes. I don’t like Canadians or I’d be in. That’s a heck of a nice pipe for the price.

 

[dmcmtk]

I agree it’s after 55. It almost looks unsmoked. I don’t know. I love my Loewe pipes. I don’t like Canadians or I’d be in. That’s a heck of a nice pipe for the price.

That blast is worn quite a bit from handling (and or polishing/buffing). Looking at the chamber...it's been smoked. I'd be hard pressed to pay half the ask. Nicest pipe to my eye in the sellers offering (and still more than I would pay) this little Comoy's second.

Vintage Comoy's Astor Bantam #509 smooth billiard briar estate pipe London | eBay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Comoys-Astor-Bantam-509-smooth-billiard-briar-estate-pipe-London/333879905355?hash=item4dbccb0c4b:g:q7UAAOSwY35gHJKg

 

[ssjones]

That COM definitely looks like a latter era Loewe. The major fan of that brand was forum member Cake&Dottle (Mike?), he had at one time a homepage devoted to that brand, now taken down.

From Mike's dating doc that I saved:

1964-1967 early Civic era
left shank
L&Co. (in oval)

 

[ssjones]

Here's that dating doc, if anyone has interest.

 

[greeneyes]

That COM definitely looks like a latter era Loewe. The major fan of that brand was forum member Cake&Dottle (Mike?), he had at one time a homepage devoted to that brand, now taken down.

From Mike's dating doc that I saved:

1964-1967 early Civic era
left shank
L&Co. (in oval)

Maybe not. I stand corrected. Any time there's a hallmarked exemplar:

Loewe COM Dating Question :: British Pipes

I have a 1935 Hallmarked Loewe with a Made in England in a Circle I found an un Hallmarked Loewe with the same COM, so I’m curious what the date range of that COM is

pipesmagazine.com

 

[Ahi Ka]

Just to play devil’s advocate...

Interesting that many other Loewe Peel pipes which have been sold through SPC had a series name - original or centurion - and no logo on stem (assuming stems are original).

Edit: I also think the seller has done a pretty decent job at trying to date the pipe, if in fact they don’t know anything about pipes as they say. I reckon they have used the lack of series name and presence of a “model name” (peel) as their perimeters

 

[Simplicity]

Just to play devil’s advocate...

Interesting that many other Loewe Peel pipes which have been sold through SPC had a series name - original or centurion - and no logo on stem (assuming stems are original).

Edit: I also think the seller has done a pretty decent job at trying to date the pipe, if in fact they don’t know anything about pipes as they say. I reckon they have used the lack of series name and presence of a “model name” (peel) as their perimeters

Hmmm - that would be interesting. I based the Loewe stem logo presence on my own research and personal pipes for dating, that, to my knowledge, is not documented anywhere, so I could be off. All Loewe's are pretty hard to date, for sure. And this one not having a series name makes it more confounding.

To check, I did do a quick Google search and found two hits for Loewe Peel pipes from SPC. I found this Centurion, but the Condition section notes 'Stem Logo Buffed Off' and this Original in which the stem logo is very faintly seen in the picture.

To be clear, the Loewe dating and stem logo is not exclusive to the Peel line. I have (or owned) Garrick/Special Grain/Straight Grain/Wimpole/Faulkland/Acton with a series and stem logo, while a hallmarked 1950 pipe did not have the logo, nor a 1940 hallmarked. I have seen hallmarked pipes from the 1930's also not have the stem logo present. Here is an example of a Civic era pipe with the same logo on the stem.

 

[mikestanley]

I have one Loewe pipe I bought unsmoked from a shop in Cleveland. It seemed odd to me that the stem had no logo on it. it is a small Prince marked:
Left shank: L&Co in oval (over) original
Right shank: Loewe (over) London W
Bottom shank: CAPTANIDE (over) Made In England

I always wondered if the shop broke the original stem and replaced but it didn't seem there was the tell tale discoloration at the end of the shank for that.

Darned pipe loves Virginia Flakes. IIRC it was $40.00. Probably bought it in 2012 or so.

Mike S.

 

[Ahi Ka]

I think I have only come across one Loewe with a stem logo, and it also had the centurion series name. Otherwise all the Loewe I’ve worked on have been early 50s or earlier.

@Simplicity you are right about stem logo being buffed off on the old SPC listings. I didn’t look that closely, was more interested in the presence of the series name on the Peel pipe.

I’ve also operated from the assumption that the series name came in or close enough to 55 to mark the change from mid to late Haymarket era, and the stem logo began to be included half way through this era, around 1960 give or take. Maybe these stem logos came in earlier on export pipes?

I didn’t think ‘Peel’ was a series name, but a seperate release, similar to the john Peel pipes produced by other British pipe houses.