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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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Just yesterday my brain (when I was in my house in the Detroit ‘burbs) conjured up a visceral memory of the very particular scent of the sandy soil of northern Michigan and White pines on a wet and chilly day, i.e., like I was actually sitting on the ground tucked in under the boughs watching a deer path. I have been getting my gear ready for the opener in about a month, so I’m sure it was a subconscious connection.
THAT'S what I'm talking about!
 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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Well, I've read Proust and experienced memories flooding my brain when exposed to a particular scent.

Having the sensation of a scent when there is none is more than fascinating. I will try to be open to this! Thanks!
 
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PipeIT

Lifer
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It’s always been my understanding that Phantosmia, phantom smells is not a normal condition with a healthy body, but if you experience it, it should not last.

If it persists there could be a serious underlying issue.

If you always experience this, you should see a doctor.
 
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Cloozoe

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Do scents ever visit you involuntarily? Can you conjure favorite aromas? Am I clinically insane?​

I can't speak to your sanity overall, but I don't think so on the scent score. Hell, Proust recalled the scent of a madeleine aand it effected him so profoundly he sat down and wrote a seven volume novel.
 
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bullet08

Lifer
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It's little different with me. I have an idea of smell and what not, but don't smell them. I have to actually have whatever it is in order to smell it. I used to think I can conjure up smell of incoming snow, but when I smell that, it usually snows.
 
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PipeIT

Lifer
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I sometimes get phantom whiffs or things that remind me of the past. I'll smell salt air occasionally here in Indiana. I'll get hints of sugarcane and guava as well.

This sounds more like, you’re smelling something to begin with, and then it conjures up thoughts, that lead you to smelling something different.

It’s my understanding this is not Phantosmia.

Phantom smells is when there are no scents in the air and you just start smelling odd things from nothing.

Conjuring up memories leading to scents, or scents in the air, leading you to believing your smelling something else is one thing. Having no scents at all in the air, and then the air smells like cheeseburgers, can be a serious issue.

It could also be simply nothing more than allergies, but it can also be very serious.

If this has been going on for months or longer, you should check it out.

@woodsroad have you been checked by a doctor in regards to this? 🤔
 
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jediofthecode

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Do scents ever visit you involuntarily? Can you conjure favorite aromas? Am I clinically insane?

Nah you're not insane at all. I grew up in Canada in a smaller town and we had a fireplace, as was common back then. Anytime I smell wood fire in my neighborhood now it instantly transports me back to my childhood.
 

Cloozoe

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While driving home from an assignment yesterday...

As an aside, this reminded me of how much I've always liked the phrase, "on assignment"; puts me in mind of an intrepid war correspondent or the like.

From now on whenever a friend asks me to go fishing but I've got chores I've promised my wife I'd attend to, I'll respond cryptically, "Can't...on assignment"; better than admitting my uxoriousness.
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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This sounds more like, you’re smelling something to begin with, and then it conjures up thoughts, that lead you to smelling something different.
Nope.
It’s my understanding this is not Phantosmia.

Phantom smells is when there are no scents in the air and you just start smelling odd things from nothing.
That's what happens
@woodsroad have you been checked by a doctor in regards to this? 🤔
I see an ENT tomorrow,
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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As an aside, this reminded me of how much I've always liked the phrase, "on assignment"; puts me in mind of an intrepid war correspondent or the like.

From now on whenever a friend asks me to go fishing but I've got chores I've promised my wife I'd attend to, I'll respond cryptically, "Can't...on assignment"; better than admitting my uxoriousness.
I worked in newspapers for over 20 years as a photographer, and the term stuck with me. There were a lot of cool newspaper terms, it was a real subculture at one time.
 

El Capitán

Lifer
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This sounds more like, you’re smelling something to begin with, and then it conjures up thoughts, that lead you to smelling something different.

It’s my understanding this is not Phantosmia.

Phantom smells is when there are no scents in the air and you just start smelling odd things from nothing.

Conjuring up memories leading to scents, or scents in the air, leading you to believing your smelling something else is one thing. Having no scents at all in the air, and then the air smells like cheeseburgers, can be a serious issue.

It could also be simply nothing more than allergies, but it can also be very serious.

If this has been going on for months or longer, you should check it out.

@woodsroad have you been checked by a doctor in regards to this? 🤔

This happens when I'm just sitting. No smells around.
 

FLDRD

Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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I find it fascinating that in so many cases regarding various sensory perceptions, anything which falls outside a potentially very narrow range of common, becomes standardized as "normal", leading to anything outside of "normal" must be considered "unhealthy" or "abnormal".

I find it much more intriguing that we all potentially have the latent ability to recreate smells in this case (or whatever), and why not laud it as an appreciable quality?

What if "normal" is actually under-developed?
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
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SE PA USA
I find it fascinating that in so many cases regarding various sensory perceptions, anything which falls outside a potentially very narrow range of common, becomes standardized as "normal", leading to anything outside of "normal" must be considered "unhealthy" or "abnormal".

I find it much more intriguing that we all potentially have the latent ability to recreate smells in this case (or whatever), and why not laud it as an appreciable quality?

What if "normal" is actually under-developed?
Thank you.
I agree with you.
It seems to me that everyone has the potential to conjure aromas. Whether that potential is realized or not is another issue. The same holds true for things like lucid dreaming and, I believe, telepathy, ESP and similar activities. I have lucid dreams from time to time, but I can't make them happen. I'm convinced that if I work on it, I could will them to happen, but I've yet to explore that. All I can say is that I'm grateful that most of the aromas that involuntarily manifest themselves to me are pleasant ones. Can you imagine being cursed with suddenly smelling dog shit or rotting potatoes?

Taste and smell are fascinating. So closely tied with experience and memory. And we have no way of comparing that perception, except on a broad basis (smells sour, sweet, putrid, like, dislike, etc). It explains 75% of the conversations on here where people argue about discuss their favorite and most repulsive blends. Few of us have a shared perception. Maybe none.
 
I find it fascinating that in so many cases regarding various sensory perceptions, anything which falls outside a potentially very narrow range of common, becomes standardized as "normal", leading to anything outside of "normal" must be considered "unhealthy" or "abnormal".

I find it much more intriguing that we all potentially have the latent ability to recreate smells in this case (or whatever), and why not laud it as an appreciable quality?

What if "normal" is actually under-developed?
Exactly. When someone takes band in school, the director teaches them all to play their instruments, read music, and then to memorize. This all takes auditorial memory. Every human has the ability. Anyone could be in a marching band. Practice, practice, practice...

But, for some strange reason people people think that drawing, painting, sculpting etc... is some sort of skill you're born with. But, it merely requires developing your visual memory, hand eye coordination, and tool sensitivity.

25, 30 years ago, teachers started teaching to students' "intelligences." Meaning, that if a kid tested to be a visual learner, they only gave them visual type lessons. Or, they divided classes into the different "intelligences", etc... The problem is that kids started thinking that because they had been told that they were better learners using this or that, that they "couldn't" do the others Teachers never pushed kids to learn in other styles, so a whole generation of students walked across the graduation stage think that they can only learn in one way, and that every other way was beyond their capacity... which is bullshit.

If exercised, everyone can have olfactory memories, or.... visual, kinesthetic, auditorial memories.