Justin Trudeau

[jkrug]

I don't blame you peck. To have to give more than you get to keep is just hard to comprehend and then to pay high taxes on everything you purchase as well?? :?:

 

[stickframer]

Peck I agree 100%. And I think saying high earners "don't pay their fair share" could be seen as divisive politics, something that Trudeau campaigned against.
But, hell, pitting high earners against the rest of us sure gets the middle class vote.
Man, I would have a problem paying over half of every dollar I made in tax.

 

[perdurabo]

When you have a voting block that is encouraged to vote for policies that steal from your pocket to give to the "needy". Nothin but Greed. It's going to get worst, wait till the idiots over on our side of the boarder elect Hillary. I don't know if I can handle that much cackling. Gives me the heebeegeebee's.

 

[peckinpahhombre]

perdurabo - yes, it's a bit like us all taking a vote about whether Warren should pay for all of our drinks at the bar one evening. Of course we would all vote for that with a clear and convincing majority because we aren't paying the bill.
Votes should be allocated on a weighted basis based on IQ.

 

[perdurabo]

Bad sentence structure...shame on me. Peck, you suggest a litmus test to vote?

 

[peckinpahhombre]

I was being facetious on the IQ. Maybe. Kind of.

 

[jackswilling]

"The whole thing is blatant class warfare of the worst kind and I believe we will be worse off for it."
Nothing good will come from this. Canada weathered the last/current financial crisis quite well, as noted. Now they will join the race to the bottom. He will run out of other peoples' money no matter how much taxes are raised.

 

[warren]

I'd gladly do it. More willingly if I get to pick the drinks for each of you.
We are resilient if nothing else. It will change one of these days. Maybe some of you will be around to see it.
I'm not sure if IQ is the correct test. I'd perfer, prefer if there's a teacher in the group, a fairly simple written test. One question perhaps: Are you a legal resident? Yeses get a ballot, noes get a pass until they acquire citizenship.
I know! I know. We'll handle the fraud problem later. One step at a time.

 

[davet]

Many younger, uninformed in my opinion, voters heard Trudeau say he would legalize marijuana and that was all they needed to hear. Many that would never vote, or read a newspaper for that matter, voted, I'm working with many of these geniuses as I write this.

 

[mortonbriar]

I like the 'not political' disclaimer, ha.
I am a New Zealander and living in New Zealand, but since I have one way tickets back to Canada for the end of this year I will put in my 2 cents in as short a sentence as possible...
Harper needed to go, whatever came next is a new set of issues for Canada to deal with and figure out, but I am glad Harper is out.
Isaac

 

[fnord]

Thanks for the pix, Davet. He certainly favors his old man in the looks department - and that's taking into account the hair issue.
This class warfare business has been around since God invented dirt. It's ugly, divisive as hell and why somebody would rather be given a fish than learning how to fish puzzles me to no end.
For me, AF, you might've summed it up the best, "It's just a case of the have nots, that continue to not want to work, plaguing working people. I do believe in the hand up, not hand out, capitalist policies."
I hope this thread can run for awhile. (Most of us Yanks don't have a clue to anything going on north of Michigan.) Folks in this thread are making simple declarative statements, nobody has been shy about their opinions and, not surprisingly, comments have been forthright and polite - unlike that rowdy-assed Blue Jay trash pitching beer cans on the field and fellow fans while dismantling the Rangers.
At this point, nobody has started a butt hurt, carpet bombing campaign of leftist/conservative swill and Molotov cocktails which always insures a lock. On that note, let's keep a taut line here. I'm enjoying learning about your reactions to the current state of affairs in Canada.
Fnord
PS: Met several vacationing and expatriated Canadians last Saturday at the 2nd ALCS game in Kansas City. They were fun, slightly inebriated and boisterous fans of their beloved Jays. But, to a man, they were all grateful for the reception and good natured teasing they received at Kauffman Stadium. Several had been to games in New York, Boston and LA and felt threatened by the taunts and jeers. "Nobody has ever invited us to tailgate with them. Your fans are effing fantastic! They know more about our guys than we do."

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[frozenchurchwarden]

All I know about Trudeau is that he's not old.
(Yesterday I found a wonderful story about an old WWII veteran. When a political party was holding a meeting near the community shooting range and complained about the noise, upon finding out which organisation was meeting he proclaimed: "Liberals! I used to shoot people for $1.25 a day, I'd shoot those ******* for free!)

 

[deathmetal]

Harper needed to go, whatever came next is a new set of issues for Canada to deal with and figure out, but I am glad Harper is out.

The voting cycle! "The old guy sucks, he needs to go, let's replace him... " -- four years later -- "The new guy sucks, he needs to go, let's replace him."
Reminds me of the USA during Bush -> Obama.
It always amuses me when people refer to Harper, Bush or Cameron as "conservatives." I can't tell the difference between them and their opposition, except as a matter of degree. False option.
When do we fire the voters for being the most consistent group and getting it wrong every time?

I'm not sure if IQ is the correct test.

IQ is widely misunderstood because it is not an intelligence test; it is a test of your neurological hardware. A person with an IQ of 85 will never be smarter than one with an IQ of 105. However, people can be crazy and as we see in academia, many self-reported high-IQ cases are in fact totally useless. In reality, most of those cluster around 120-125 not 130-160 as they'd like us to think. But what we really need is a realism test, and those do not exist. Voting itself also encourages people to think about politics as a form of self-expression. So even your top fifth of the population, those 118 points and above, are prone to get it wrong time and again...
Almost like that was the plan all along.

 

[newbroom]

We are turning hard left with the Liberals who are fundamentally a socialist party who have promised to "tax the rich" because they "aren't paying their fair share".

I think that 'the rich' in this instance are the corporations and their CEO's who's profit (which we enable) costs us jobs, as well as those who leverage debt into 'profit'.

I'm smoking Old Joe Krantz, in a Washington cob.

 

[lordofthepiperings]

Yesterday I found a wonderful story about an old WWII veteran. When a political party was holding a meeting near the community shooting range and complained about the noise, upon finding out which organisation was meeting he proclaimed: "Liberals! I used to shoot people for $1.25 a day, I'd shoot those ******* for free!

I still don't understand how bashing liberals has become vogue.
I also don't understand how being a redneck has become vogue either.
People can be vogue all they want to, I'm perfectly happy being a progressive liberal city boy.

 

[deathmetal]

I still don't understand how bashing liberals has become vogue.

Might be worth looking into. Everything has a strength and a weakness. If its strength conceals its weakness, you never know until it explodes in your hand.

 

[newfie]

I am old enough to have paid taxes to the last Trudeau. While that's a scary thought, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Look up the book "The Truth About Trudeau". The way the young feller's political career has mirrored the old man's is scary when you consider Pierre's accomplishments.
I think that pretty well sums up what I think of the change, in a very nice family-friendly way.

 

[newfie]

For your reading pleasure:
I know the writer VERY WELL

 

[perdurabo]

In the US, a poll test needs to be implemented. Sample questions: Who's running as VP Candidate? Who was Senate Majority Leader prior year? LOTPRings it's not vogue to bash liberal, It's patriotic to bash totalitarianism. Which is what Progressivism is. If you would do some deep research, you would discover that the early progressive movement of America(which the Modern Democrat Party has chosen as a platform and Many Republicans fall in to this too) inspired Hitler and Mussollini. It's not a movement that promotes Liberrty at all. That's a fact, not rhetoric. I respect your opinion and you are entitled to that opinion. America became great because of rugged individualism not because of the collective.
In this country you can choose to be poor or rich, even the poor have IPhones, tv, Xbox, etc. Although, that stuff is usually gained From the work of those who produce and redistributed to the lazy for their comfort. .

 

[saint007]

perdurabo wrote;
"Sad to say the world has chosen totalitarianism over freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility".
This is exactly why I am a registered Libertarian in the USA and vote Libertarian!
I fear the same situation here in the USA where the politician promising the most free stuff wins.
And to me, voting for a Dem or Repub candidate is voting for the lesser of two evils. A situation where evil always wins.