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mike73

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 20, 2013
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Great reviews Jim. I am definitely going to try more of these tobaccos. I must have started on the wrong end of their areos. My first and only so far was Navigator. I really wasn't that impressed by it at all. Smoked really well but for room note and taste, it was rather bland. I opened the tin and let it dry some and mixed with some cherry flavored burley. Still ok but now it has a taste for me. I am interested to read what your take on this blend is. Keep the great reviews coming!

 

JimInks

Sultan of Smoke
Aug 31, 2012
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Mike73: I haven't tried Navigator yet, but I'll let you know when I do.

 

lincolnsbark

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Apr 11, 2013
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Once again I find your reviews of the Sutliff blends a must read on the forums. I am exceptionally happy with the Sutliff sampler I got a few weeks ago and have found letting the tins breath a bit has taken some enjoyable blends into some true favorites.

 

JimInks

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Here are my latest Private Stock reviews:
Bacchanalia: The medium brown, lightly sweet Virginia acts mainly as a base for the mild earthy, nutty burley. The red wine topping is medium strength. Though it doesn't crowd out the other flavors, the wine taste is the high quality major player with some sweetness and some tangy tartness. Relaxing and smooth, burns well and cooly with no goop. This is a very comforting smoke that goes well with hot tea or coffee, but that's hardly a requirement for enjoyment. An all day smoke that leaves a very pleasant after taste, and keeps you interested in smoking it.
Navigator Blend: Being a black cavendish blend, it should come as no surprise that vanilla is the star flavor here, albeit a mild one. Burns very smooth and cool with few, if any relights, with mellow consistency. There is a little blackened Virginia and aged maduro in the mix with a light alcohol topping, and some chocolate notes. It was designed to be a match for the old Argosy Black blend, and comparisons may vary as to how close it is to AB, which I've never smoked. Either way, this is a solid entry into the black cavendish genre.
Old Vienna: A rich aromatic with a smooth vanilla and cognac tang. The burley undertones are just noticeable, but become a little more obvious when the tobacco has dried. They add slight earthy notes. The tobacco was a little moist when I opened the tin, but it did not hamper the burn rate or leave any goop at the bottom of the bowl. It's not a very complex blend, but it has a pleasingly sweet and consistent flavor that's between mild and medium in strength, and medium in taste. Smells as good as it tastes.
R-Blend: This is meant to be Sutliff's version of Revelation before House of Windsor got their hands on it. The HoW version left me with a bad impression all the way around. This is a vast improvement. The medium brown Virginia has a mildly natural sweetness. The burley sports some earthy points, plus a light tangy nuttiness from the burley. The perique is very lightly added for a hint of spice. The latakia brings very mild smokey, woody bass notes to give this mixture a slight flavor push. This is a well rounded, medium tasting blend for the all day smoker who wants a decent nic hit with a lot going for it.
South Seas: The mango topping tends to dominate the other flavors a little. As with some of the other Private Stock aromatics, the Virginia is the core component that keeps this a cool smoking blend. The burley is lightly sweet with a very slight nutty note, and is mostly responsible for what "oomph" is present here. South Seas is mild with a medium strength taste, and works well as a dessert smoke, or a pleasant day smoke as you go about your business.
St. George's Blend: A mild black cherry blend, milder than I expected after smelling a freshly opened tin, which, if you are a black cherry fan, will prove pleasing to your senses. Even though it's mildly moist fresh out of the tin, it burns very well, smoothly, and not hot. The Virginia mostly acts as a cooling base for the black cavendish, the latter adding a little vanilla and slight fruity plum taste of its own. The use of the back cherry favor gives this mixture a deeper flavor push than your average cherry blend.

 

shutterbugg

Lifer
Nov 18, 2013
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Great reviews Jim! I've only tried two Sutliff blends thus far and am in agreement with you on both. One is Bosphorus Cruise. I'm in love with this one! The other is Barbados Plantation, which I bought because of some reviews that said the taste of real rum comes through, but like you I find it mainly vanilla. In fact it tastes to me exactly like the black burley vanilla house blend aro I get from my B&M, although the tin note of Barbados is completely different. It (Barbados) was a bit of a disappointment in the rum-taste department. The one I want to try based on your review is Top Shelf. If you say you can really taste the bourbon, I'm eager to give it a light.

 

JimInks

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Aug 31, 2012
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Thanks for the kind words. I'd like to hear what you think of Top Shelf when you try it. I was told by the blender when I visited the plant that they use high quality bourbon and rum in their mixtures. Btw, I just got five PS tins in today, and will be smoking them a bit so I can review them.

 

zekest

Lifer
Apr 1, 2013
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Great reviews. I have been following this topic and your reviews from the start when you mentioned that Sutliff asked you to do the reviews.
Because of your reviews I have since purchased a tin, sometimes two, of each, although I am yet to crack anything other than Molto Dolce of which I have smoked both tins, and ordered more.
I also have a plastic tin of Edger G Robinson in the cellar due to your input and review.
Thank you again for the time you put in reviewing these products!

 

shutterbugg

Lifer
Nov 18, 2013
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Thanks for the kind words. I'd like to hear what you think of Top Shelf when you try it. I was told by the blender when I visited the plant that they use high quality bourbon and rum in their mixtures. Btw, I just got five PS tins in today, and will be smoking them a bit so I can review them.
Just now ordered a tin of Top Shelf. They may very well use the best rum on earth in Barbados Plantation but I can't taste it or smell it in the room note at all. I wish they would eliminate the vanilla altogether (there must be 1001 vanilla-cased aros out there), and let the rum predominate unmistakably. From what you say, that's how the bourbon is in TS so I am looking fwd.

 

JimInks

Sultan of Smoke
Aug 31, 2012
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Shutterbug: I can taste the rum in BP, but yeah, the vanilla crowds it out too much. I did mention that to them when I visited the company last month. At least there's no vanilla taste in Top Shelf.
Zekest: Thank you very much for the kind words. Btw, when you do get around to opening the tub of EGR, I recommend hydrating it a little before you smoke it.

 

shutterbugg

Lifer
Nov 18, 2013
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Jim as I continue smoking Barbados I'm discovering the rum note rises up if I sip very slowly, with it just on the verge of going out.
And somewhere on a review of Top Shelf I read someone saying it ghosts. Did you find that to be a problem? (Not that I don't have a pipe or ten I could dedicate to it LOL but just would like a HU ahead of time).

 

JimInks

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Aug 31, 2012
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Top Shelf is a strong blend, and when you smoke something else in the pipe, you may taste TS for three or four bowls. It should go away though.

 

robertelliott

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Nov 5, 2012
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A few years ago , I had discovered the Sutliff blends. To my surprise how good the

quality and the price was on this brand . I like the fact on how Sutliff remade

some of the old blends, that were classics and have the creativity to make other

new blends that are becoming our favorites.

Now! I am happy that this discovery of Sutliff Blends has a great following.

Robert Elliott :)

 

shutterbugg

Lifer
Nov 18, 2013
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Well I just finished my first bowl of Top Shelf. I tried it in a Lonsdale second straight apple (I rarely smoke it and don't care if it ghosts). The moisture felt right out of the tin (for an aro) and it smoked reasonably dry (again, for an aro)but I had to sip it very slowly to avoid tongue bite. That could have been partly the pipe to blame, as that one isn't the coolest smoking pipe. Slow sipping also allowed the bourbon taste to come through. A few long draws and the taste dissappointed. Keeping it right at the point of almost going out brought forth the sweetest taste and best bourbon flavor. I would say it's a nice change-off from my go-to black vanilla house blend and Barbados Plantation. A pleasant smoke, nothing mind-blowing. I think this tin will last me a while, and I'll see by then if I want to order more.

 

JimInks

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Aug 31, 2012
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Shutterbugg: In my opinion, Top Shelf is mind blowing only if you are a bourbon lover. In a nice way, I mean. :D It does need to be sipped, at least for me it does, because the bourbon is strong. One night, I was smoking a little faster than I normally would, and got a little buzz from the bourbon. I didn't get any tongue bite, so it could well be your pipe. I enjoy it when I smoke it, and like you, I consider it a nice change of pace smoke, being more of VaPer, straight Va, and VaBur smoker. I feel the same way you do about Barbados Plantation.

 

shayde

Can't Leave
Oct 4, 2013
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This may be the only review in favor of Great Outdoors that I've seen on this site. I'm looking forward to opening my tin of it now. I also have some Barbados plantation, Charlemagne, and top shelf bourbon. Thanks for the great reviews

 

romeowood

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Having just reviewed two more blends in the Sutliff catalogue (Maple Street and Golden Age), I love coming to this thread to compare our takes on them, Jim. Keep 'em comin'!
@shayde: You must have missed this recent write-up of Great Outdoors. I've been working my way through Sutliff blends for a while now, check them out for others you may want to try.

 

JimInks

Sultan of Smoke
Aug 31, 2012
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Here's the last of the Sutliff Private Stock blends I reviewed:
Alexander Bridge:

A mild and tasty mix of red and gold Virginias with some burley. The burley adds a very slight nutty note, and the gold Virginia chips in with a very light lemon hit with a touch of cavendish. There's a lightly added topping that reminds me of red wine, along with a light apricot and honey essence that hints of sweet bread flavor. The flavors expertly meld to create a well balanced semi-sweet all day smoke with no bite, no goop, and an even burn rate.
French Quarter:

A mild to medium slow burning coarse cut plug mixture that may require a little rubbing out. The sweet liquor casing along with vanilla notes from the black cavendish are the star flavors, though there are some earthy toasted burley spots in the mix. There's also a fresh bread flavor that I've noticed in a few other Private Stock blends, too, that adds to a light hint of fruit. A pleasant smoke that may need a little drying time, or the tobacco at the bottom of the bowl can get a little hard, especially if you are a wet smoker. I consider it to be more of a sipping blend.
Kentucky Planter:

A mild light and dark Kentucky burley blend with a very light cocoa note, a hint of vanilla, abetted by some earthy, nutty flavors. There's a sprinkle of a topping that adds a very tame sweet essence that mostly disappears when you light up. A very small amount of Virginia acts as cooling base. There's not that much complexity here because it's designed to be an all day semi-sweet companion that burns well with no chemical taste to disrupt the experience. I do get more nuance of flavor when I use a wide bowl to smoke it in. Recommended for the OTC smoker who wants a break from drug store blends, and for those want to enjoy a good burley mixture with no bite or goop. If you like Kentucky burley, you'll enjoy this mixture.
Roma Vita:

A mild aromatic with a pleasant amaretto topping and light vanilla subtext provided by the black cavendish. The Virginia is underplayed, adding a light grass note or two. The burley chips in with a little nutty flavor. Thinly cut so it burns well, but don't puff it like a freight train. It leaves a very nice aftertaste, and while it is designed to be an after dinner smoke, it's also good as your all day companion while you go about your business.
Westminster:

The gold Virginia is lightly sweet with a hint of grass coming from the dark Virginia. The Turkish component is rather sparse while the latakia adds the smokey, woodsy flavor one would expect from that ingredient. Experienced English smokers may find the low nicotine level, and overall flavor profile a little too light for their personal taste. It's a mild English blend with no harshness that burns easily, and is nearly an all day smoke that gives a pleasant English flavor for those who want a dose of latakia without being overwhelmed by it.

 

shutterbugg

Lifer
Nov 18, 2013
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Thanks Jim! We agree on the basics so our taste buds must be similar. Of the ones you just reviewed, the Alexander Bridge sounds like one I might like to try. Bosphorus Cruise is the best English I've ever smoked and I don't have any real desire to keep shopping around. Barbados and Top Shelf are different enough from one another to make a great change-off. It sounds like Alexander would also be very different in taste and aroma from those others, but still pleasant to my taste.

 

JimInks

Sultan of Smoke
Aug 31, 2012
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It took me two or three bowls to get into AB, but that's usually the case with me anyway. I know whatcha mean about Bosphorus Cruise; I sure like that one, too. I have found that as I'm getting older, I prefer a moderate English to a lat-bomb. The Westminster kinda reminded me a little of a less hay-like Dunhill Standard blend, which is a English mixture I like.

 
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