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Sharp_tungsten

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Honestly if you are an aggressive smoker, corn cobs are the way to go.

That said, a morta smokes pretty great straight from the start.
Cobs are ok in my experience but a big obnoxious reverse Calabash or larger size meerschaum helps me greatly. Most of my big meers have a 1.75 or 2 inch deep bowl. When smoked to the bottom the bowl is dry to the touch even with wet aromatics. Cobs are relatively dry but never this dry and a briar pipe would be gurgling and soaken wet on the bottom of the bowl.
 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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A beautifully cut and finished symmetrical piece of well grained plateau briar will not smoke better than a pipe made with cheap ebauchons with fills, IF the drilling and stems are identical. They only difference is how they look, not how they smoke. << Snipped bits out >>
No; NO and no! There are differences in raw briar to begin with, then there's how it's cured and treated before shaping begins. Then there can be different steps past initial shaping that'll make a difference.

The above you will note, has nothing to do with looks.
 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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My other suggestion is to put the majority of your money into tobacco and build a cellar. Pipes will be around and the same or similar price when pipe tobacco is much more expensive or unavailable altogether.
I agree with Mark. What is the state of your cellar? If you are comfortable with how much tobacco you have then go all out on pipes. If your cellar is not complete then grab just a few pipes and then spend the rest on tobacco. How many bowls a day do you smoke?
 

Sharp_tungsten

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I agree with Mark. What is the state of your cellar? If you are comfortable with how much tobacco you have then go all out on pipes. If your cellar is not complete then grab just a few pipes and then spend the rest on tobacco. How many bowls a day do you smoke?
Yeah but how much tobacco can you safely store? I've given up on tins and started ordering bulk by the pound but after 10 to 15 pounds what does one do? I got it in quart jars. I smoke 3 to 4 bowls a day on some days only 1 to none on others. So I go through roughly 2 oz a week or less.
 
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Total rookie topic I know but I've been thinking of spreading my wings and dabbling in high-end briar pipes. I've been eyeing some Ser Jacopo, Castello and Dunhills. I've researched alot and keep seeing a common theory that they just smoke sweeter. Not that the drilling, fit and finish are phenomenal which they typically are but that the briar is just that much better. I'm a meerschaum smoker typically and I have run if the mill Savinelli, peterson, aldo velani, Boswell pipes. Am I going to really ascend into the heavans near the brink of climax when I smoke one of these 300 plus dollar pipes? Or is more of status symbol and really no better than run of the mill pipes but I can't admit that and just tell everyone how amazing they are and you haven't smoked anything until you try one if these puppies?
1. The drilling and fit and finish is virtually identical on any pipe over $100.
You need to find the best artisans to get better than a factory job, and I've never seen any information to tell who is selling pipes based on marketing alone or who is actually selling a superior product so I don't even bother looking at high price artisan pipes.
I personally have found some brands better than others through sheer trial and error, Missouri Meerschaum being a standout for near perfect stem design in their standard 80 cent plastic stem, but out of the 50+ Briar pipes in my collection ranging from $50 to $300 almost all of them are the same in terms of craftsmanship.

2. The seasoning of the briar is virtually identical on all pipes being sold today, every Rossi was at one point optimistically going to be a Savinelli Puto Oro until something went wrong with the finish.
Is there anything to say Savinelli is sourcing worse briar than anyone else?
In a blind test it's virtually guaranteed no-one would ever be able to differentiate between new or aged briar by smoking it, and even if you could, there are enough half century old stummels being sold for under $50 you can never say that a more expensive pipe is going to have better Briar.
 

Sharp_tungsten

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 25, 2021
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Evans City Pennsylvania
1. The drilling and fit and finish is virtually identical on any pipe over $100.
You need to find the best artisans to get better than a factory job, and I've never seen any information to tell who is selling pipes based on marketing alone or who is actually selling a superior product so I don't even bother looking at high price artisan pipes.
I personally have found some brands better than others through sheer trial and error, Missouri Meerschaum being a standout for near perfect stem design in their standard 80 cent plastic stem, but out of the 50+ Briar pipes in my collection ranging from $50 to $300 almost all of them are the same in terms of craftsmanship.

2. The seasoning of the briar is virtually identical on all pipes being sold today, every Rossi was at one point optimistically going to be a Savinelli Puto Oro until something went wrong with the finish.
Is there anything to say Savinelli is sourcing worse briar than anyone else?
In a blind test it's virtually guaranteed no-one would ever be able to differentiate between new or aged briar by smoking it, and even if you could, there are enough half century old stummels being sold for under $50 you can never say that a more expensive pipe is going to have better Briar.
Has anyone ever tried to messaround with vacuum kilning the briar or do really old briar pipes dry better to create better smoking characteristics? I like buy old NOS pipes. Preferably over 20 years old. O like nostalgia and tell myself they were made better back then lol.
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Has anyone ever tried to messaround with vacuum kilning the briar or do really old briar pipes dry better to create better smoking characteristics? I like buy old NOS pipes. Preferably over 20 years old. O like nostalgia and tell myself they were made better back then lol.
Really old ones can be dry to the point of cracking when smoked.
 
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sablebrush52

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Yeah but how much tobacco can you safely store? I've given up on tins and started ordering bulk by the pound but after 10 to 15 pounds what does one do? I got it in quart jars. I smoke 3 to 4 bowls a day on some days only 1 to none on others. So I go through roughly 2 oz a week or less.
There are people sitting on literal tons of the stuff. They're bat shit crazy, but they literally store tons of tobacco.
 

sablebrush52

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1. The drilling and fit and finish is virtually identical on any pipe over $100.
You need to find the best artisans to get better than a factory job, and I've never seen any information to tell who is selling pipes based on marketing alone or who is actually selling a superior product so I don't even bother looking at high price artisan pipes.
I personally have found some brands better than others through sheer trial and error, Missouri Meerschaum being a standout for near perfect stem design in their standard 80 cent plastic stem, but out of the 50+ Briar pipes in my collection ranging from $50 to $300 almost all of them are the same in terms of craftsmanship.

2. The seasoning of the briar is virtually identical on all pipes being sold today, every Rossi was at one point optimistically going to be a Savinelli Puto Oro until something went wrong with the finish.
Is there anything to say Savinelli is sourcing worse briar than anyone else?
In a blind test it's virtually guaranteed no-one would ever be able to differentiate between new or aged briar by smoking it, and even if you could, there are enough half century old stummels being sold for under $50 you can never say that a more expensive pipe is going to have better Briar.
Actually, there are differences in how airways are constructed in higher end artisanal pipes, and the chamber shape plays a role in how tobacco burns. So, there are differences in handmade pipes. Might not be noticeable to every smoker, but a number of smokers appreciate the difference. And leave us not forget the button, bit, and slot. That part of the design can have a significant effect on the msoker's level of comfort, as well as how the smoke gets spread out, and that also is different.
All briar is not cured the same. Oil curing is different than air curing.
 

saltedplug

Lifer
Aug 20, 2013
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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,739
53,431
Southern Oregon
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I think you overlooked a couple, Briar Diane and Key Lime Briar.
 
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