Is Our Perception Of The Present Entirely Influenced By Memory?

[Misanthrope]

What would you perceive if you don't remember anything, not a single thing? You will have some basic programming assuming you are functioning physically. So you'll be able to see, hear and feel. But you'll have no language. And no prior reference for what you see, hear or feel. You wouldn't know whether you are hot or cold because you can't remember, and hence don't know, what hot or cold is to you. You also don't know what wet or dry feels like. The sights and sounds you perceive will appear completely random and chaotic, and you will be utterly confused.

Ah, yes, the joys of morning. I find a cup of coffee and a nice pipe sorts all that right out for me within an hour.

 

[cigrmaster]

My dementia robs me of short term and some long term memories. It is a bitch to deal with at times. When I make a decision to expand my consciousness, time flows forward, backwards and some time in the present. It is a great ride and I always look forward to it.

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

Unfortunately we are the filter through which we see the world. We can only know things in this way so to “see things the way they are rather than what we think they are” is impossible

It’s called imagination. Imagination does not require a clear path. JFK imagined going to the moon.

 

[STP]

I remember very little from college, but a course in phenomenology stuck w/me. Essentially, reality is what you experience… ?

 

[puff_not_snuff]

I remember very little from college, but a course in phenomenology stuck w/me. Essentially, reality is what you experience… ?

Do you remember drinking in college?

 

[STP]

^^^ No… but I’m sure I did?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

It’s called imagination. Imagination does not require a clear path. JFK imagined going to the moon.

I'm not certain that you are interpreting what Lotus is saying correctly. It's like you're reading some of us on here, but your just not "getting" the correct message.
I don't say this to be antagonistic at all. It's just an observation that there is some confusion.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

I'm not certain that you are interpreting what Lotus is saying correctly. It's like you're reading some of us on here, but your just not "getting" the correct message.
I don't say this to be antagonistic at all. It's just an observation that there is some confusion.

Reading vs actual comprehension create different perceptions.

 

[sablebrush52]

But, if someone is just standing there appreciating the sun, the trees, and the wind in our hair, with a big stupid smile... then I've got better things to do with my time, ha ha

Given the high pressure environment in which I work, such moments as you describe are highly prized by me.

 

[mso489]

Sister Helen would never say "damned apple." She'd just rap your knuckles with a ruler.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Sister Helen would never say "damned apple." She'd just rap your knuckles with a ruler.

Sister Helen, actually, she made me kneel on uncooked rice while reciting Canto II of Dante's Inferno.

 

[Sweet Home Alabama]

I'm not certain that you are interpreting what Lotus is saying correctly. It's like you're reading some of us on here, but your just not "getting" the correct message.
I don't say this to be antagonistic at all. It's just an observation that there is some confusion.

He said perception is entirely predicated on memory. You agreed and I didn't

 

[Streeper541]

Back in Psychology class I remember it being said;

Perception is the process of sensing in a meaningful way the stimuli we observe in the present.

Memory is the process of storing this perceived information for the purpose of future recall.

I still don't entirely grasp it, but then again... I had trouble with Plato's Allegory of the Cave too. ?

 

[mingc]

Sister Helen, actually, she made me kneel on uncooked rice while reciting Canto II of Dante's Inferno.

Man, that's kinky. I hope you turned out OK. Dante was awfully long-winded.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Man, that's kinky. I hope you turned out OK. Dante was awfully long-winded.

No. I did not turn out ok.

 

[Winterreise]

Primitive Instinct , logical assumptions .

 

[shanez]

There is no past.
There is no present.
There is no future.

 

[telescopes]

But, if someone is just standing there appreciating the sun, the trees, and the wind in our hair, with a big stupid smile... then I've got better things to do with my time, ha ha.

this is not without merit.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I have no idea what it is like to see a tree without all of my understanding of what a tree is. In our culture we think of a blankness, absence, a blank canvas, the untarnished sheet of paper, the whiteness of space awaiting the mark. Whereas anthropology tells us that more remote totally at one with nature cultrures like the tribes of remote Brazil or Africa see black as awaiting the mark. What is it like to see a tree without knowing it’s a plant, future lumber, a home for so many creatures, shade, colors with names, and attributes, alive, was once a seed, growing, ever changing with the seasons. I can only see it through what I am, what I know. I can’t possibly see it as an owl would, or a fish, or someone from the remotest regions on the planets, or an Inuit, or a caterpillar. I am a filter of my mind and all that has had happened to it, what I’ve learned, what I know and don’t know.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

There is no past.
There is no present.
There is no future.

No future, no future, no future for you.