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BROBS

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Can you ask the mods to delete your post? RDH has suddenly assumed near unicorn status. Last drop, my two most reliable sources for GH got none. I had to beg a seller who normally breaks down to sell by ounces to sell me a whole 500g bag. You really aren’t doing anybody who likes the blend any favors.

In fact, given the present supply issues, any discussion of GH tobacco should be banned. As a fan of 35 years, I can say with complete confidence that most of you won’t like them. Bob’s Chocolate is particularly foul to the uninitiated. I have jars and Mylar bags of GH and SG stashed all over the house (but, alas, only about a pound and a half of RDH)and the EPA has declared it a Superfund clean up site.
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Seriously, I never thought I would live long enough to see this. I am reminded of 1992. I picked up a copy of the very first issue of Cigar Afficianado at LAX on my way back to Florida where I then lived. That issue ranted and raved about how good made in Miami La Gloria Cubanas were. I had less than a box of Charlemagne’s and a box plus of Wavell’s. It was damn near six months before I could get another full box. At twice the price. I kind of got a hoot, though, out of being ahead of the curve back then. But not now. Definitely not now.
they all suck..
worse than C&D.
never try them.. you will get lakeland in your mouth and sinuses and never be able to taste other tobaccos.
they will also ruin every pipe you own.
 
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anotherbob

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cosmicfolklore

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rushx9

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It's not uncommon to see people conflate Lakelands and traditional Irish aromatics. They all get lumped together in a "we don't know what the hell this topping is" category. Both styles use strong African tobaccos, which have their own unique character, Lakelands typically use Rose-Geranium as well as other floral and fruit toppings, and some Irish tobaccos (Condor/War Horse) may use a bit of Rose-Geranium as well. One of the biggest mysteries in toppings is fig extract. Figs are actually inverted flowers and not fruits in the strict sense, hence their extract is very floral and unique. Another shared practice between the two is the use of whiskey or whiskey based honey liqueur such as Irish Mist. To me, Erinmore is a minimally topped Virginia based tobacco that has a touch of sweet fruit that defies attempts to pinpoint. Maybe a hint of plum or apricot and fig, and probably a splash of cooked-down sticky Madeira wine to help bind the flake. I don't really notice the presence of traditional Lakeland florals or Tonquin.
 

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The Fruit in Juicy Fruit - http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/03/fruit-juicy-fruit/ If you read this you might suspect what the mystery "fruit" in Erinmore is just like I have.
Mmm, Isoamyl Acetate, the banana & bubblegum flavor in young whiskey! Interestingly (to me anyway), jackfruit is in the same family of pseudo-fruit flowers as figs. I'd bet with the triple distillation process of Irish Whiskeys, Isoamyl Acetate would be an abundant and cheap flavoring option there.
 
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Both styles use strong African tobaccos, which have their own unique character,
This.

As to Erinmore, a former member who was banned here has posted elsewhere internal correspondence that came out during the tobacco litigation and has been preserved in a searchable (with some difficulty) datatabase maintained by the University of California San Francisco library. It shows that older versions of made in Ireland Erinmore did in fact contain pineapple flavoring. The makers now say it doesn’t, but it did.
 

mingc

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This.

As to Erinmore, a former member who was banned here has posted elsewhere internal correspondence that came out during the tobacco litigation and has been preserved in a searchable (with some difficulty) datatabase maintained by the University of California San Francisco library. It shows that older versions of made in Ireland Erinmore did in fact contain pineapple flavoring. The makers now say it doesn’t, but it did.
That makes sense. Otherwise, why put a pineapple in your graphic when it doesn't have pineapple in it?
 
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BROBS

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Mmm, Isoamyl Acetate, the banana & bubblegum flavor in young whiskey! Interestingly (to me anyway), jackfruit is in the same family of pseudo-fruit flowers as figs. I'd bet with the triple distillation process of Irish Whiskeys, Isoamyl Acetate would be an abundant and cheap flavoring option there.
absolutely.. I think the topping/casing of Erinmore has been solved.
 

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The Fruit in Juicy Fruit - http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/03/fruit-juicy-fruit/ If you read this you might suspect what the mystery "fruit" in Erinmore is just like I have.
This just blew my mind! I've eaten dozens of jackfruit in Jamaica when I've visited my grandparents. Sad to say I have never thought about juicy fruit but I could never get enough. Now that it's mentioned I could definately see why they say that. Now I want to get some Erinmore haha!
 

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I would smoke Erinmore in a VA-dedicated pipe. Ghosting hasn't been much of an issue for me, but I like the flavor of Erinmore, so if I got some lingering ghosts in other VA blends for a few bowls... Hardly the end of the world. You may want to try it in a cob first if you're worried about it, but I don't suspect Erinmore would be a big ghoster.
 
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, but I don't suspect Erinmore would be a big ghoster.
When I really started learning how to smoke a pipe circa 1979, Erinmore and Mixture 79 were the only two tobaccos I can recall being specifically warned to never smoke in a briar pipe. My first recollection of hearing about the salt treatment was in connection with a friend saying he had done it four times on one pipe he had smoked a half tin of Erinmore in before he exorcised - mostly- the ghost.

OTOH, I started smoking GH blends around 1984 or 1985, and it was only when the Alt Smokers Pipes newsgroup came into being that I heard a word about “Lakeland’s” ghosting a pipe.

I did smoke some 1970’s/early 1980’s vintage Erinmore Flake in a cob from time to time, and like @cosmicfolklore reported, it was a big hitter nicotine/strength wise, up there with Five Brothers and McQuaid Plug of the era.
 

krizzose

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I miss the old Erinmore. It used to have enough nicotine in it, that it sat my ass down on the street one time while I was walking the dog.

I don’t know if it’s “old Erinmore,” but I was lucky enough several years ago to find a few tins from the mid-aughts at a local B&M. It gives me a wallop every time I smoke it. It’s great stuff, but now I’ll only smoke it in a small bowl after a large meal.
 
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if you want to know what lakeland scent is get some of the snuffs by those companies. It's certainly it's own thing.

Or just open up a box of Dove hand soap and inhale. Visualize tobacco as the substrate to this smell, and you know what Lakeland is.
 
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Or just open up a box of Dove hand soap and inhale. Visualize tobacco as the substrate to this smell, and you know what Lakeland is.
And, you have to diversify, add in some MeeMaw's little pink rose soaps, some in the shapes of hearts and birds. Every time I smell it, I think of her pink shag carpet and enema bottle hanging in the tub. Ahhh, memories...
 

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I agree with some previous comments. I wouldn't call it a Lakeland scented. Rather a good enough full-bodied virginia with a light fruity note. The original version of Murray was perhaps a little stronger in both taste and nicotine. I smoke both the current version and the original one, fortunately I still have 3 tins of the Murray's in the cellar :)
 
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