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buroak

Lifer
Jul 29, 2014
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Group 3 are what I look for.
The pipe on the left was the odd man out. The center and right pipes were likely part of the original trio. Still a fantastic set.

I like Group 3, too. Nothing wrong with Groups 1 and 2 either. For most people, though, anything smaller than Group 4 is a scale model of a usable pipe.
 
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bayareabriar

Lifer
May 8, 2019
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I bought this one for $36. Came to $50 with shipping and taxes. Tenon still needs adjusted just a hair, but just perfect for my rotation at work.

I get excited finding ones like these, and also envious of the others who get them before me! ahaha.
 

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Dec 10, 2013
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Nijmegen, the Netherlands

I bought this one for $36. Came to $50 with shipping and taxes. Tenon still needs adjusted just a hair, but just perfect for my rotation at work.

I get excited finding ones like these, and also envious of the others who get them before me! ahaha.
Congrats sir ! A "black spot" patent Dunhill Root for a steal.
Underlined 10 ?
 
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greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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Although there is an earlier thread about the "Hands" pipes [LINK] the photos are missing. The pipe that first got me interested in "Hands" pipes is this one (below). I could barely make out any markings but I knew from the make that it was something special. These are the "mystery pipes" I referred to in the post above [LINK].

Pipe #1 - OLD BRIAR / HANDS / LONDON MADE (opposite side) HANDS (straight) / MADE IN ENGLAND (curved upward) (Shape #1)

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I searched high and low for who (or what) "Hands" might be. As if Hands isn't a common enough word, suffice it to say I turned up a handful of "Hands" tobacconists in the UK, but nothing definitive. After several months, as luck would have it I saw this pipe at an old antique shop south of town:

Pipe #2 - "HANDS" / LONDON MADE / PAT.№210973/23 (opposite) 304 (shape) (open palm hand logo on stem)

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This information matched misterlowercase's earlier post, and, as he indicated, the patent number was registered to Joel Sasieni in 1924 and was for a little metal condenser "cuff" (a short inner-tube, frankly). I still don't know who or what "Hands" is, but the condenser patent was used on an early Sasieni Windsor, a Stamford (perhaps a sub-line before the name was used on Four Dots), and a Londonaire. Now, Londonaire is interesting to me because it was a brand of the House of Crane (Indianapolis; below) which means it was likely made by Sasieni for the House of Crane for sale in the USA. All three* "Hands" pipes that have turned up have appeared in the USA, so it's possible they were made for a firm in the United States.

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*Which brings me to..

Pipe #3 - "HANDS" / SASIENI MADE / PAT.№210973/23 (opposite) MADE IN ENGLAND (football shape)


It looks to me like this would have been a later pipe (in fact, I think I've posted them in what I assume is ascending order from oldest to most recent), as it looks like Sasieni wasn't stamping these pipes with "Sasieni" until later, and the button and stem are arguably more modern, as is the "Made in England" football shaped stamp. I think it was a bit pricey but it rounded out the set of three with something approximating an arc of production, and the other two I managed to get for a song. Perhaps since these were likely for sale predominantly (or exclusively) in the USA, I'll be able to turn up some information by way of advertising or catalogs.
 

paulfg

Lifer
Feb 21, 2016
1,734
3,269
Corfu Greece
Even though the restorer here completely obliterated the stem logo, he was kind enough to provide me with a before photo for dating purposesView attachment 405826
who was the restorer ,one to avoid!!
why buff out the remains of the logo? surely its not too hard to work round the logo with a bit of sympathy ,that's what i do if cleaning up a pipe with a weak logo,even if it leaves a bit of oxidisation.
 
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runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,451
3,312
Washington State
who was the restorer ,one to avoid!!
why buff out the remains of the logo? surely its not too hard to work round the logo with a bit of sympathy ,that's what i do if cleaning up a pipe with a weak logo,even if it leaves a bit of oxidisation.
Many get the mindset that a pipe has to be brought back to perfection, and, lacking the skills to do so, try anyway. They see a Deadman Pipes effort and think that getting such results is just a matter of intensely sanding and polishing.

People with historian leanings will be thinking 'do no harm' when they are first learning how to restore pipes. Their early efforts may not look great, but they can work on them again later when they know more. But 'history' has to come before 'make money'.
 
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runscott

Lifer
Jun 3, 2020
1,451
3,312
Washington State
I also don't want to name the guy, because he might not be a professional and he doesn't need the negative attention.
Good attitude :). There is a guy who announces in his listings that the pipe has been "professionally restored". Looking at the remains, I asked him who the "Professional" was. It was himself, of course. He sells the pipe, so I guess technically he is a professional.
 
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