Interesting Completed Ebay Auctions - British Pipes

[orlandofurioso]

Dents I lift with a wet rag ( T shirt works best because of the particular fabric ) and a hot iron with steam function on .
Mind your fingers !!

 

[paulfg]

Dents I lift with a wet rag ( T shirt works best because of the particular fabric ) and a hot iron with steam function on .
Mind your fingers !!

yep

 

[orlandofurioso]

Could this be a Frederick's Era Charatan pipe :

Ci scusiamo per l'interruzione.

The seller is a renowned antique dealer and restorer with a posh shop in Carrara Italy.
He accepted my offer and for 60,00 you will not hear me complain.
Returns accepted.

 

[orlandofurioso]

Could this be a Frederick's Era Charatan pipe :

Ci scusiamo per l'interruzione.

The seller is a renowned antique dealer and restorer with a posh shop in Carrara Italy.
He accepted my offer and for 60,00 you will not hear me complain.
Returns accepted.

Inviting all Old Britwood Experts to comment

 

[sablebrush52]

Inviting all Old Britwood Experts to comment

It's possible, except that the pipe has a CP stem logo, which wasn't used until the mid 1920's and the Frederick era ended in 1910. It's an interesting piece in that it's figural, in a humorous way, which is uncommon for Charatan.

One other thing to know is that the case is not original to the pipe.

 

[orlandofurioso]

Thank you Jesse.
I recall this one where Ken chimed in :

Frederick Charatan Pipes :: British Pipes

I am aware that the pies made by Frederick Charatan are very rare, but do some collectors have them? I tried to find pictures, but the only picture I found was on Pipedia. Maybe some of you have pictures of this era Charatan pipes? Any other additional interesting info would be appreciated as...

pipesmagazine.com

Throughout the years I've seen so many types of CP logos; perhaps it is a very early Reuben one.
This logo deviates from any I've seen so far.
Anyway, I look forward to see and "examine" it a lot.
Stem looks not to be oxidized, horn maybe ?
See if it can be cleaned up properly, I'm an optimistic.
Shape is I believe unique and it comes with a case, I like it a lot.
Why you think the case is not original , because of the poor fit of the pipe ?
Seems to me Old Britwood is not so much a topic on the forums anymore
Hope I'm mistaken.

 

[runscott]

maybe they will at least lift a bit with steam.A hot knife and damp towel applied to the dent

The worst dents were actually pits. A Murphy Oil toothbrush scrub brought up most dents - no sanding except rims and a little on the Dublin which is the only one I stained (russet). Danish Oil revealed some nice grain on the other two. Only one small shank crack out of all three, and no chamber issues.

The other two stems are a wreck, being worked on.

B&A topping on the Dublin

 

[Ahi Ka]

In case you wonder what attracted me to this one, I will tell you NOW :
It is no less then 6.88 inches long !
Comoy's canadians are the 196, 299, 311,the longer 309 and undoubtedly some more I do not know by heart.
This is a 509 and I've never encoutered this shape nr. on any Comoy's canadian pipe.
Lovely grain on this one too.
Two Comoy's and COM stamps; the oldest ( as I recall Comoy's second name stamp ) is a curved Comoy's over London Made one and the second one the much later
Made in London ( in circle ) England one. Why is this ? Old Britwood Experts please chime in !
The stem is a three piece drilled one, however postioned in an unusual way.
Put bat in your pipe and please share your learned opinion.

Comoy's Dating Guide - Pipedia

pipedia.org

Example 6 under the silver hallmarks section is a 1959/60 pipe with the same nomenclature as this

 

[sablebrush52]

Why you think the case is not original , because of the poor fit of the pipe ?
Seems to me Old Britwood is not so much a topic on the forums anymore
Hope I'm mistaken.

Yep, beyond poor fit. It's shaped for a different pipe entirely.

Discussion of Britwood isn't as prevalent as it was a few years back. More of the membership here is into artisan made pipes, beginner pipes, cheap pipes, and/or popular mid market pipes. Very few people here are interested in the history of the pipe making trade, except in a cursory way, and an interest in pipes history usually accompanies an interest in collecting Britwood.

There are a lot less experienced pipe smokers here than there used to be. The Brit guys seem to have either stopped posting, out of boredom and either moved on to other social media, moved on to other interests, or croaked out. Whatever, they're no longer here with a few exceptions, and those exceptions rarely post. Major collectors won't go near forums because too many members think they know more than they actually do and can be quite stubborn about it.

C'est la vie

 

[jguss]

…Frederick era ended in 1910.

This is as good a place as any to refute that oft cited belief. In 1910 Reuben was about 21 years old (various dates appear in the records) and had relocated to Canada, arriving there on October 21, 1910. Within two years Rueben had set up the R Charatan Co, a pipe manufacturer located in Montreal. Whether he actually made pipes, acted as an importer of his father’s pipes, or both is unclear. What is clear is he stayed in Canada for several years before recrossing the Atlantic as part of the Canadian Expeditionary Force. Reuben joined the 5th Regiment of the Canadian Mounted Rifles on February 13, 1915 and remained in service until being discharged on compassionate grounds to help settle the family’s affairs after Frederick died on July 8, 1918.

Even after Rueben’s return to England Frederick’s will in conjunction with surviving corporate records suggest several years elapsed before Rueben emerged as head of the company.

 

[ssjones]

Speaking of old Brit wood, did anyone grab this one? I expected it to shoot past $200 with ease, but it stalled.

MRC MARECHAL RUCHON ET. CIE c1920's UNSMOKED MARCEE STRAIGHT GRAIN ESTATE PIPE | eBay

This is aREALLY neat pipe, and quite old while shockingly unsmoked! I would comfortably say this pipe was made 100+ years ago and by Marechal Ruchon et. Cie who you may recall as the managing stewards of GBD at the turn of the century.

www.ebay.com

 

[runscott]

Speaking of old Brit wood, did anyone grab this one? I expected it to shoot past $200 with ease, but it stalled.

MRC MARECHAL RUCHON ET. CIE c1920's UNSMOKED MARCEE STRAIGHT GRAIN ESTATE PIPE | eBay

This is aREALLY neat pipe, and quite old while shockingly unsmoked! I would comfortably say this pipe was made 100+ years ago and by Marechal Ruchon et. Cie who you may recall as the managing stewards of GBD at the turn of the century.

www.ebay.com

That's an interesting auction. So, Todd says it's a 'Cie' pipe;i.e-prior to being sold to Oppenheimer in 1902? I'm just going by Pipedia - I know nothing about this brand. Maybe Todd knows something that's not in Pipedia, as he states it's a 1920's pipe. If it's really pre-1902 and unsmoked, the final price seems like an even greater deal.

 

[orlandofurioso]

Yep, beyond poor fit. It's shaped for a different pipe entirely.

Discussion of Britwood isn't as prevalent as it was a few years back. More of the membership here is into artisan made pipes, beginner pipes, cheap pipes, and/or popular mid market pipes. Very few people here are interested in the history of the pipe making trade, except in a cursory way, and an interest in pipes history usually accompanies an interest in collecting Britwood.

There are a lot less experienced pipe smokers here than there used to be. The Brit guys seem to have either stopped posting, out of boredom and either moved on to other social media, moved on to other interests, or croaked out. Whatever, they're no longer here with a few exceptions, and those exceptions rarely post. Major collectors won't go near forums because too many members think they know more than they actually do and can be quite stubborn about it.

C'est la vie

I do not so much mind the case.
What a sad affair ; c'est la vie, c'est la guerre.
I do not approve of this; Maybe we should start our own sub-forum

 

[orlandofurioso]

This is as good a place as any to refute that oft cited belief. In 1910 Reuben was about 21 years old (various dates appear in the records) and had relocated to Canada, arriving there on October 21, 1910. Within two years Rueben had set up the R Charatan Co, a pipe manufacturer located in Montreal. Whether he actually made pipes, acted as an importer of his father’s pipes, or both is unclear. What is clear is he stayed in Canada for several years before recrossing the Atlantic as part of the Canadian Expeditionary Force. Reuben joined the 5th Regiment of the Canadian Mounted Rifles on February 13, 1915 and remained in service until being discharged on compassionate grounds to help settle the family’s affairs after Frederick died on July 8, 1918.

Even after Rueben’s return to England Frederick’s will in conjunction with surviving corporate records suggest several years elapsed before Rueben emerged as head of the company.

Thank you Jon for confirming my wishful thinking.

 

[orlandofurioso]

Comoy's Dating Guide - Pipedia

pipedia.org

Example 6 under the silver hallmarks section is a 1959/60 pipe with the same nomenclature as this

Sorry son; it is probably the wee dram but I cannot find it.
Can you be somewhat even more specific ?
Or post the picture ?

 

[orlandofurioso]

The worst dents were actually pits. A Murphy Oil toothbrush scrub brought up most dents - no sanding except rims and a little on the Dublin which is the only one I stained (russet). Danish Oil revealed some nice grain on the other two. Only one small shank crack out of all three, and no chamber issues.

The other two stems are a wreck, being worked on.

B&A topping on the Dublin

Hats off to you sir !
What a fantastic job on these three rogues.
Danish Oil I use for my teak outdoor furniture .
Will it not turn sticky ?
Or did you dilute it ?
Did you remove the silver band before staining the Dublin ?

 

[Ahi Ka]

Sorry son; it is probably the wee dram but I cannot find it.
Can you be somewhat even more specific ?
Or post the picture ?

Second section from the top of the page. Here’s the specific point

 

[orlandofurioso]

Second section from the top of the page. Here’s the specific point

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Ah yes, this one. So the wee dram is not to blame, I did find it. No picture of the 509 shape though.
If you can find me one, please share.
Maybe not entirely; mine has the curved Comoy's stamp over London Made .as well as the circle shaped stamp on the reverse side. I'm confused.
Stand me corrected if I'm wrong.

 

[runscott]

Hats off to you sir !
What a fantastic job on these three rogues.
Danish Oil I use for my teak outdoor furniture .
Will it not turn sticky ?
Or did you dilute it ?

Thanks! If I have to scrub off the finish, I always use Danish Oil before applying a finish. I may add Carnuba to these at some point, but they look pretty good as-is.

Danish Oil doesn't get sticky, but other oils do - some can't be used on wood if it's too humid, etc. I imagine there are some that don't hold up to heat well, but Danish Oil has always worked well for me.

 

[orlandofurioso]

Thanks! If I have to scrub off the finish, I always use Danish Oil before applying a finish. I may add Carnuba to these at some point, but they look pretty good as-is.

Danish Oil doesn't get sticky, but other oils do - some can't be used on wood if it's too humid, etc. I imagine there are some that don't hold up to heat well, but Danish Oil has always worked well for me.

So you apply it before staining ?