Instant Reaction To Peterson’s Early Morning Pipe

[didimauw]

That is correct. Most of the "Burley blends" I smoke do indeed have some virginias, But not enough to bother me.

I do enjoy some MacBaren Burley flake and Old dark Fired (ODF is considered Burley, but I think its a whole other level).
But all I ever really smoke these days are blends by C&D
-Briar Fox
-Old Joe Krantz Blue
-Pegasus
-Burley flake 4

Some "Burley" Blends like Half and Half burn the heck out of my mouth. But I attribute that to the percentage of virginia (Half to be exact lol)

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

That is correct. Most of the "Burley blends" I smoke do indeed have some virginias, But not enough to bother me.

I do enjoy some MacBaren Burley flake and Old dark Fired (ODF is considered Burley, but I think its a whole other level).
But all I ever really smoke these days are blends by C&D
-Briar Fox
-Old Joe Krantz Blue
-Pegasus
-Burley flake 4

Some "Burley" Blends like Half and Half burn the heck out of my mouth. But I attribute that to the percentage of virginia (Half to be exact lol)

I haven’t tried any of these blends.
I’m going to check out the C&D blends. Thanks for the recommendations.

My dad smoked Half & Half when I was a kid back in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s to help cut back on the Winston's, before he quit smoking all together. I plan to try it for the nostalgia. Hopefully it won’t burn my mouth too bad ha, ha.

 

[FLDRD]

EMP is smooth and easy to me.
While on the other hand, Briar Fox just scorched me and it's a big crowd pleaser?
Sometimes I don't think it makes any sense based on the individual components, it's rather how the unique "marriage" of the leaf occurred....

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

EMP is smooth and easy to me.
While on the other hand, Briar Fox just scorched me and it's a big crowd pleaser?
Sometimes I don't think it makes any sense based on the individual components, it's rather how the unique "marriage" of the leaf occurred....

I think you may be on to something. I have smoked other blends that contain red VA and not had a reaction beyond mild tingling on the tongue. But other types of Virginia can be tingling to me also. Could it be a specific Oriental? I do know that MM965 and Nightcap have Orientals and I enjoy these blends with no problem. Does EMP contain a different Oriental? I know nothing about Orientals. The descriptions state that EMP is stoved under pressure. Does this process amplify the chemical reaction? Oh, well. I will write EMP off and move on. It's not worth revisiting with all the other great tobaccos available. Hopefully, I will not have the same reaction with other tobaccos. As you stated with the "marriage" of leaf occurring, I think that EMP and Briar Fox are a perfect storm of tobacco and processing that hits us especially hard.

 

[mortonbriar]

I kept a spreadsheet for the first 200ish blends I tried, not with lengthy notes, but just to help me figure out what I liked, with common components etc.

It seems a bit slow, but it took me 17 blends to find out I have a reaction to perique...

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

I kept a spreadsheet for the first 200ish blends I tried, not with lengthy notes, but just to help me figure out what I liked, with common components etc.

It seems a bit slow, but it took me 17 blends to find out I have a reaction to perique...

That is a good idea. I should get a notebook and record the specifics of blends that don't agree with me.

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

That’s a great idea as it might be something else completely

I bought an ounce of C&D Red Virginia. I smoked a bowl this evening. There was no negative reaction. No stinging, burning, tingling, or bite. So, who knows what component or combination of components caused the reaction I had to EMP. I also bought some bright Virginias and had no reaction to those beyond a mild tingle when puffing hard.

 

[ThomasS]

I have found this article to be very informative:

https://www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/tongue-bite-comprehensive-guide-for-pipe-smokers

I have exactly the opposite reaction: the brighter virginias will literally give me blisters in my mouth if I'm not careful, but the burleys are fine. If it isn't a sensitivity (tends to build more than instant pain) or allergy (Not medical advice but... take two Benadryl [if those work for you], wait to be sleepy, and try again: if it decreases or goes away, then you know the problem) then it's likely PH.

 

[VDL_Piper]

I bought an ounce of C&D Red Virginia. I smoked a bowl this evening. There was no negative reaction. No stinging, burning, tingling, or bite. So, who knows what component or combination of components caused the reaction I had to EMP. I also bought some bright Virginias and had no reaction to those beyond a mild tingle when puffing hard.

So you have eliminated two of the four components of EMP. Next is Latakia and Orientals with the latter being a little more difficult as there is quite a bit of variation in type and flavour profile in Orientals. I'd say its the orientals causing you grief if I was a gambling man based on your recent post and I find EMP to be very incense like when I smoke it rather than sweet and buttery which is my preferred oriental. Also orientals carry quite a bit of sugar so be aware of that.

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

So you have eliminated two of the four components of EMP. Next is Latakia and Orientals with the latter being a little more difficult as there is quite a bit of variation in type and flavour profile in Orientals. I'd say its the orientals causing you grief if I was a gambling man based on your recent post and I find EMP to be very incense like when I smoke it rather than sweet and buttery which is my preferred oriental. Also orientals carry quite a bit of sugar so be aware of that.

I do not believe it is Latakia. I smoke four blends with Latakia on a regular basis with no problem. I enjoy MM965 and Nightcap with no negative effect. The tin description of both list Orientals. Perhaps EMP contains an Oriental not included in these blends, or at a higher ratio? I think you may be on the right track as the three Peterson blends mentioned are the only blends I have smoked that contain Orientals.

 

[jharmon230]

I can hear howls of protest - but I find EMP to be my best substitute for Esoterica Margate, which has always been my tobacco of choice. I do cut the Margate with some Pembroke as well. For anyone who is tired of the Esoterica shortage, try EMP

 

[TakeThisCobAndStuffIt]

Could be tobacco or could be the processing. For me that's Union Square. Tin note made me slobber. Could not wait to fire it up. 3 puffs later and all of the saliva in my mouth is GONE and I am on fire. Similar experience with Virginia No1 which from a flavor standpoint is one of my favorites but I can only smoke about a half bowl at the end of the day due to the tongue bite!

 

[Revnatorade C.P.G.]

I have EMP a few days a week in a XL Peterson Deluxe System pipe. I'm so happy I don't have any issues with it. Sorry for all who do. That really sucks.