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georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
6,101
16,735
Here's what it looks like when people don't just sit back and do nothing. The lesson in this case apparently is never bring a knife to a bar stool fight:


Funny ^^^^ not funny.

The next part is the root-cause of why such things keep happening.

It's because, in the end, the guy will pay virtually no price for having done it. He'll plead to some lesser charge like disturbing the peace, get 90 days probation, and be back on the street within days. Rinse, repeat.

Hell, there was a legit Hollywood-movie-class serial killer hunting people on jogging trails around Kansas City for months, and who not only admitted it after finally being caught, but said he was going to do it on Facebook in the run-up to the actual killings.

How many?

Five.

Slam dunk, right? Not exactly. It's been almost eight years and he has yet to even go to trial.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,023
50,384
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Funny ^^^^ not funny.

The next part is the root-cause of why such things keep happening.

It's because, in the end, the guy will pay virtually no price for having done it. He'll plead to some lesser charge like disturbing the peace, get 90 days probation, and be back on the street within days. Rinse, repeat.

Hell, there was a legit Hollywood-movie-class serial killer hunting people on jogging trails around Kansas City for months, and who not only admitted it after finally being caught, but said he was going to do it on Facebook in the run-up to the actual killings.

How many?

Five.

Slam dunk, right? Not exactly. It's been almost eight years and he has yet to even go to trial.
I like the festive Christmas ornaments.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,023
50,384
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Here's what it looks like when people don't just sit back and do nothing. The lesson in this case apparently is never bring a knife to a bar stool fight:

Brings back memories of when I was a twenty something teacher at an continuation school. One of our students, an oversexed 14 year old, with a taste for getting herself into trouble, had ditched school with a friend and was at a biker bar. Her friend freaked out and called the school office. Next thing I know I'm hightailing it to the bar and walk in to see her being, well, "groped" by some dude in leathers and she's enjoying the attention.

I grabbed a pool cue, a nice weapon if you know how to use it, roundhouse the dude and flat out cold cocked him, dragged her drunk ass out of the bar, threw her in my car, which was still running, and floored it.

Someone was looking out for me because there was no pursuit and I made it back to the school without incident. I dumped her at the admin office then walked outside and puked.

Fun times.

I'm much nicer now.
 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,058
16,135
Brings back memories of when I was a twenty something teacher at an continuation school. One of our students, an oversexed 14 year old, with a taste for getting herself into trouble, had ditched school with a friend and was at a biker bar. Her friend freaked out and called the school office. Next thing I know I'm hightailing it to the bar and walk in to see her being, well, "groped" by some dude in leathers and she's enjoying the attention.

I grabbed a pool cue, a nice weapon if you know how to use it, roundhouse the dude and flat out cold cocked him, dragged her drunk ass out of the bar, threw her in my car, which was still running, and floored it.

Someone was looking out for me because there was no pursuit and I made it back to the school without incident. I dumped her at the admin office then walked outside and puked.

Fun times.

I'm much nicer now.

Damn...you should have been getting hazard pay for that teaching job. I hope her parents appreciated it.

These days it probably would have gotten you some kind of legal trouble...no good deed goes unpunished anymore it seems.
 

Sigmund

Lifer
Sep 17, 2023
3,172
30,684
France
@telescopes Perhaps I didnt quite grasp what you were saying.

Maybe the part that is left out is the Humanism part. Our youth tend to be learning that no one else matters. I doubt that is anyones design but somehow that message seems to be shaping in that direction.

Secular Humanism in the absense of an ability to foumlate using facts and logic simply becomes Secular Impusivism...which seems to be the world we live it. Create your own truth using your own impulses and drives...forget the rest. Dont worry if its an opinion or a fact...just use it to support getting your immediate needs met.

Perhaps trying to teach Humanism to children in the absence of sound reasoning ability (which is almost always lacking in youth) is akin to giving a child a hammer in a hall of mirrors?

Im not sure of a solution but Im pretty sure we are currently not close.

What I do not agree with is that people are taught that all opinions count. Sorry, while we all may be created equal we are not equal and some opinions matter a hell of a lot more than others. I know when I go to the doctor his opinion matters far more than the lady's in the waiting room.

Maybe it began when we started handing out trophies to the losing team. Sometimes being inculsive goes a bit far. Going home from a ball game empty handed is a life lesson. Being wrong or not knowing is the start of any useful journey. If we shield everyone from that, they take no journey into the world of others.
 
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mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,824
8,635
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
They are simply lost, confused, and most often they are dim.
So the long and short of what you are saying that by not conforming to any religion, people are dim? Wow.

I think these levels of crime occur from a general break down in society that begins in the absence of any real ideology.
These levels of crime stem from the fact that life has become valueless to many folk and I would suggest Hollywood should take a good portion of the blame for that.

In 2013 a film called The Purge was released, set in a dystopian America where for a period of 12 hours on a designated day every year, all crime including murder is perfectly legal. I struggle to think how some screenwriter could come up with such a storyline but there we go.

The film was such a box office hit that several sequels were made. I only watched the first film out of genuine curiosity and it was basically just a killing fest. This is how normalised murder is in America these days and how such little value folk place on life.

Yes, of course it was make believe but I'm sure many nutjobs really got their rocks off on these films and that is worrying.

It is quite the rarity to watch a film where there are no guns or murders somehow woven into the story and why is that? Because the film makers & screenwriters know exactly what Joe Public wants to see on the screen.

Jay.
 
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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,023
50,384
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
@telescopes Perhaps I didnt quite grasp what you were saying.

Maybe the part that is left out is the Humanism part. Our youth tend to be learning that no one else matters. I doubt that is anyones design but somehow that message seems to be shaping in that direction.

Secular Humanism in the absense of an ability to foumlate using facts and logic simply becomes Secular Impusivism...which seems to be the world we live it. Create your own truth using your own impulses and drives...forget the rest. Dont worry if its an opinion or a fact...just use it to support getting your immediate needs met.

Perhaps trying to teach Humanism to children in the absence of sound reasoning ability (which is almost always lacking in youth) is akin to giving a child a hammer in a hall of mirrors?

Im not sure of a solution but Im pretty sure we are currently not close.

What I do not agree with is that people are taught that all opinions count. Sorry, while we all may be created equal we are not equal and some opinions matter a hell of a lot more than others. I know when I go to the doctor his opinion matters far more than the lady's in the waiting room.

Maybe it began when we started handing out trophies to the losing team. Sometimes being inculsive goes a bit far. Going home from a ball game empty handed is a life lesson. Being wrong or not knowing is the start of any useful journey. If we shield everyone from that, they take no journey into the world of others.
Is social media the biggest teat in history?
Is the medium really the message?
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,179
15,025
The Arm of Orion
These days it probably would have gotten you some kind of legal trouble...no good deed goes unpunished anymore it seems.
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