I'm So Mad

[jackswilling]

Pretty much cut and dried.
"Oklahoma's self defense laws--including a Castle law and Stand Your Ground law--are part of the Oklahoma Firearms Act of 1971 and are delineated in 21 O.S. 1289.25 of the state penal code: A. The Legislature hereby recognizes that the citizens of the State of Oklahoma have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes or places of business..."

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E. A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter the dwelling, residence, occupied vehicle of another person, or a place of business is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence."
There are very few, if any, circumstances where someone or a group of someones can kick your door in and expect that the homeowner/occupant will be prosecuted for smoking the perps. There is a legal presumption that is is a good shoot for the prosecutor to overcome. People in other countries are piñatas. Freedom scares people in other countries.

 

[aldecaker]

@Bigpond- "Do you folks have such little regard for life...?"
Yes, yes I do have that little regard for the life of shitbags who prey on honest citizens. I don't know where it is that these pieces of shit are an endangered species, but it's not around here.
Wow, some of you guys are real big on challenging people for "talking tough". Let me reiterate, Mr. 23 year old guy didn't talk, he did. Why you would doubt that anyone here would have the wherewithal to do the exact same thing, I have no idea, but what the fuck ever. If you don't want to accept that a man can reach real deep when he or his family is in mortal danger, there's nothing anyone can do to convince you otherwise. If all the many thousands of documented cases of it happening aren't enough to convince you, nothing ever will. All those people must have just been tough-talking windbags.
Your idea of youthful indiscretions is pretty goddamned far from mine, I can tell you that. I will state directly that if the "mistake" you make as a teen is barging into someone's house with a mask and a knife, then someone should go out of their way to shoot you in the face. I'm not one of those "what about the children" types. I'm a realist who knows that nits grow up to be lice.

 

[ashdigger]

^^^^. Excellent post!!! My sentiments exactly.
Bigpond, warning shot? Where was my express notice three turds were invading my home? Nope.

 

[mawnansmiff]

"Americans have "guns on hand" for one simple reason. No, they are not "gun nuts" or "gun crazy," that is just an idea promulgated by the anti-gun lobby"
Yes but there is a massive difference twixt owning a regular 9mm pistol and owning a full on automatic assault rifle/machine gun capable of firing a zillion rounds a minute.
Moderation in all things.
Regards,
Jay.

 

[ashdigger]

Jay, I don't own an automatic assault rifle and fairly few do. They take special licenses. The media tels lies about that all the time, both through ignorance and fear mongering. But I'm armed. Not because I'm afraid of my shadow, but because it's my right.
Whenever the "gun crazy" and like phrases get tossed around the discussion ends.

 

[zack24]

...and I think everyone has made their points on this one...I see the edge of the cliff approaching...