I'm Probably Going To Be Beaten Up For This.....

[blueeyedogre]

I was at the local B+M today and there was a guy there buying a pouch of Drum and I asked if he rolled his own. He replied that he smoked it in a smaller pipe and that there was no difference between Drum or Bali-shag and a finer shag cut Virginia pipe tobacco. Has anyone tried this or can confirm the lack of difference between "better" cigarette tobacco and a shag cut pipe tobacco if both are Virginia?

 

[Chasing Embers]

D&R products are also marketed as RYO's, but they smoke very well in a pipe.

 

[aldecaker]

Red Cap #7 Blend "pipe tobacco" does NOT smoke well in a pipe, no matter how you pack it, tamp it, or sip it. However, it makes a hell of a tasty RYO cigarette. ???

 

[blueeyedogre]

D&R products are also marketed as RYO's

Sorry..... "D&R"?

 

[markus]

I disagree with the man, but to each his own, I say!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I smoke Drum in my pipe occasionally. It is a Virginia, Kentucky Dark Fire blend. I'm not sure what the big deal is. Many of the RYO's on the shelves may be marketed to cigarette guys but labelled pipe tobacco, but it is pipe tobacco. I started off smoking the bags of RYO pipe tobacco in my pipes. It's not the same crap that cigarette companies sell as tobacco.

 

[mayfair70]

I've never smoked Drum in a pipe and wasn't fond of it rolled into a cigarette. Now, I'll have to try it. It is not on my immediate "need to try" list though.

 

[stvalentine]

Planta has a new VA/Bur tobacco which is called "Farmer Tabak". It can be used for rolling cigarettes or smoked in a pipe. I quite like it and it is dirt cheap.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Sorry..... "D&R"?

Daughters and Ryan

 

[blendtobac]

D&R is Daughters & Ryan. If you like Drum, D&R's Ryback is similar, and I find the quality to be better than the current version of Drum.
Russ

 

[mothernaturewilleatusallforbreakfast]

Drum and Bali Shag are both shag cut Burley/Virginia mixtures. Additionally, both are a shag cut that is finer than what is most popularly know as a shag cut pipe tobacco. I believe they are both processed differently than a pipe tobacco to make them less harsh when inhaled in a cigarette. I've rolled plenty of both, but have never smoked either in a pipe.

 

[woodsroad]

D&R's pipe tobaccos (Ramback,etc.) are NOT marketed as RYO.

 

[Chasing Embers]

D&R's pipe tobaccos (Ramback,etc.) are NOT marketed as RYO.

You've obviously not been in Kentucky cigarette stores.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Even on RYO sites listed as dual purpose tobacco.
http://www.rollyourown.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=90_214

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I think Woods meant that the packages of D&R are not marked. But, yes, Mark Ryan markets these as RYO. If they were actually marked RYO, they would be subject to cigarette taxes in many states. Here, the RYO stores are all full of bags of D&R.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

The other bags of "pipe tobacco" sold at RYO stores are also tasted in a pipe. Some of them anyways...

Mark even uses cigarette type names for his blends, Ryback gold, silver, etc... all of the other RYOs use the same type of categorization.

 

[aldecaker]

Man, I wish the sleazebag RYO shops around here were full of D&R products!

 

[deathmetal]

I've got to dissent here:
D&R is not what is expected of cigarette rolling tobacco.
It is nowhere near as good as the original Three Castles, as was widely recognized at the time.
I would never expect it to be a substitute for Drum.
D&R does many good things... handrolling tobacco is not one of them.

 

[pagan]

but to each his own,

@markthelad has a point

 

[deathmetal]

And at the end of the day, "the truth is out there"