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ophiuchus

Lifer
Mar 25, 2016
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Drum and Bali Shag are supposed to be similar cigarette cut Kentucky/Virginia blends, though this ends with quality. The dry, twiggy Drum made by Republic Tobacco for sale here in the states for the last twenty-some years is like fire-cured pencil shavings. Bali Shag reminds me of the Drum made by Douwe-Egberts (no longer available in the U.S.), and is indeed not half bad in a small bowl.

 
Deathmetal, an RYO shop will have big industrial machines, where you hand feed in the tobacco, and it makes it into a shag and automatically injects it into prerolled tubes with filters on them. RYO that is selling bags of pipe tobacco, don't intend for you to hand roll, you use these machines that make them into professionally packed cigarettes using machines sold to these RYO places by the contract companies that make them for Phillip Morris. You by pass cigarette taxes and the RYO places bypass being cigarette production companies. This was the whole reason BIG CIG started attacking pipe tobacco via their puppet FDA.

But, the cool thing is that you can mix some straight Virginia bagged tobacco with a tin of Night Cap and make a cigarette that tastes like the old Chesterfields, the bad thing is that the RYO places are run by guys involved with organized... ummmm.... they have no necks and bent over noses, if you know what I mean. :wink:
But, for the most part, the RYO places are selling fairly good pipe tobacco with a pipe tobacco cut. Some of it is even organic. The machines are designed to shrewd and roll.

D&R was on the front end of the RYO wave. They were one of the first bagged pipe tobaccos that I remember seeing. Good stuff.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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I agree. Hand rolled is an entirely different audience. D&R has confused the two, sadly, although I like their Virginias and Perique blending tobaccos.

 
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