HU Tobacco Coming to the States

[telescopes]

In reading back through this thread, I am reminded that for some people, a "little" bit of knowledge is akin to taking a powerful laxative - the results can be pretty ugly. I agree with @cosmicfolklore - tobacco isn't fine wine. Or Scotch for that matter. Although oddly enough, the tequila you might be drinking may very well have been bottled in the USA.

When anyone complains too loudly about the "dishonesty" of a company failing to add in their advertising just where the product was packaged and then goes into all sorts of reasons why it matters, my first reaction is to remove their name from future party invites. It never stops with just that one complaint. Soon, everyone is forced to listen to even more lectures on "why" this or "why" that matters when all we ever wanted to do was just open up that American tinned European tobacco and smoke the damned thing. Just my own thoughts and perhaps I got up on the wrong side of the bed.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

When anyone complains too loudly about the "dishonesty" of a company failing to add in their advertising just where the product was packaged

It blows my mind... just wait till it comes up again that "handmade" and "Made in ____" stamps on pipes, don't mean shit after decades of case law making them pretty much useless.

 

[pappymac]

In reading back through this thread, I am reminded that for some people, a "little" bit of knowledge is akin to taking a powerful laxative - the results can be pretty ugly. I agree with @cosmicfolklore - tobacco isn't fine wine. Or Scotch for that matter. Although oddly enough, the tequila you might be drinking may very well have been bottled in the USA.

When anyone complains too loudly about the "dishonesty" of a company failing to add in their advertising just where the product was packaged and then goes into all sorts of reasons why it matters, my first reaction is to remove their name from future party invites. It never stops with just that one complaint. Soon, everyone is forced to listen to even more lectures on "why" this or "why" that matters when all we ever wanted to do was just open up that American tinned European tobacco and smoke the damned thing. Just my own thoughts and perhaps I got up on the wrong side of the bed.

Funny,
I recently had a discussion with a guy at a local distillery about you really have to pay close attention to the labels on whiskey bottles. There are a lot of companies that are buy new make whiskey from MGP a large distillery based in Indiana and then transferring it into barrels and aging it before they bottling. Some are even buying whiskey which has been aged in barrels and transferring it to different barrels for additional aging. The lists of brands using MGP whiskey includes brands like High West, Smooth Ambler, WhistlePig, Angel’s Envy.

 

[BronzeAgePiper]

Funny,
I recently had a discussion with a guy at a local distillery about you really have to pay close attention to the labels on whiskey bottles. There are a lot of companies that are buy new make whiskey from MGP a large distillery based in Indiana and then transferring it into barrels and aging it before they bottling. Some are even buying whiskey which has been aged in barrels and transferring it to different barrels for additional aging. The lists of brands using MGP whiskey includes brands like High West, Smooth Ambler, WhistlePig, Angel’s Envy.

Just wanna point out that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that outside of sheer market saturation. MGP 95/5 rye mash bill is an absolute blessing. The company has also recently announced they will be cutting back on production next year moving forward as the market has appeared to have peaked.

 

[woodsroad]

I want to thank all of you for an enjoyable discussion on this topic. As a first time poster, I jumped off the deep end and all of you were polite and informative. I learned a lot from the discussion. Looking forward to “cussing and discussing” more topics in the future with all of you. Thanks!

Anyone who can run the gauntlet of obsessive compulsives as you have done here, and come out smiling is OK with me. Of course, you may not be very OK with me being OK with you being OK, and, well, that’s OK.

 

[sablebrush52]

Can we all just all join hands and sing Kumbaya together?

Let's draw the circle closer so that I can pick your pockets.

 

[woodsroad]

Can we all just all join hands and sing Kumbaya together?

Let's draw the circle closer so that I can pick your pockets.

 

[FLDRD]

I sometimes wonder if humanity is just getting to picky about things these days.

Yeah, most of us are.
That should be: "getting TOO picky"...

 

[PipeIT]

I want to thank all of you for an enjoyable discussion on this topic. As a first time poster, I jumped off the deep end and all of you were polite and informative. I learned a lot from the discussion. Looking forward to “cussing and discussing” more topics in the future with all of you. Thanks!

Well lucky for you, if you think Director’s Cut sounds like your style of smoke, I’d seriously grab a tin before it’s gone. Now don’t hold me to it, if it sucks for you LOL

Director’s Cut is probably considered their top blend, I’m assuming, that’s why the higher price.

But then HU is now suppose to be a regular, so probably no need to jump, but then, no telling how long before seeing another shipment.

Be well!

Anyone who can run the gauntlet of obsessive compulsives as you have done here, and come out smiling is OK with me. Of course, you may not be very OK with me being OK with you being OK, and, well, that’s OK.

 

[PLANofMAN]

....

When I look back on this, I guess I was looking at it like a high end completed product, at this stage, you then carefully ship it. Taking care of fancier goods, if that makes sense.

Anyhow, I have 4 tins, I’m happy. I just hope I enjoy them…

Tariffs and duties are applied according to the value of the thing being imported. A 1,000 lb box of "bulk pipe tobaccos" is probably taxed at a different (lower) rate than 5,000 one hundred gram tins of specialty tobacco in retail packaging.

In the end, this is probably 99% of the reason it got packed in the U.S.

 

[Sigmund]

@PLANofMAN Good point. For all we know there are tariffs applied on the sending side IF its packaged in tins in Germany. Probably not but Just like everywhere you will laws on the books that just dont make much sense.

 

[Merton]

Funny,
I recently had a discussion with a guy at a local distillery about you really have to pay close attention to the labels on whiskey bottles. There are a lot of companies that are buy new make whiskey from MGP a large distillery based in Indiana and then transferring it into barrels and aging it before they bottling. Some are even buying whiskey which has been aged in barrels and transferring it to different barrels for additional aging. The lists of brands using MGP whiskey includes brands like High West, Smooth Ambler, WhistlePig, Angel’s Envy.

the majority of Rye Whiskeys are MGP distilled whiskey frequently made to the recipe of the particular "producer". Anytime you see Indiana on the label you can be assured of what you are getting. This does not mean that, for example, all Ryes are simply the same mass produced liquid. The bottlers frequently age the whiskey in white oak, or even better, reused Port casks . So, it is not always a private label operation.

 

[pappymac]

the majority of Rye Whiskeys are MGP distilled whiskey frequently made to the recipe of the particular "producer". Anytime you see Indiana on the label you can be assured of what you are getting. This does not mean that, for example, all Ryes are simply the same mass produced liquid. The bottlers frequently age the whiskey in white oak, or even better, reused Port casks . So, it is not always a private label operation.

I should have clarified the point that MGP distills the new using the mash bill provided by the producer most of the time.

 

[Chris T]

Since we've gotten onto spirits, Line aquavit is more expensive because it's shipped across the equator and back. Maybe the gentle rocking of the tobacco in the shipping containers does the same for HU, helping it mature?

(That's a wry joke, if it wasn't obvious.}​