How Many Pipe Smokers are There?

[El Capitán]

Missouri still has $2 a pack cigarettes, recently increased to $2.25 pack and $20 a carton. 24/7 from Oklahoma.

By far the largest seller of 1 1/2 ounce codger tobacco is Half and Half, as cheap as $3.50 a pouch.

And when I say there are choices of $20 a 12 ounce bag true pipe tobacco in the shops there are Sutliff and Lane both to choose from. Most are cavendishes.

My favorite is the tart cherry—-sour cherry—Sutliff blend for Smoker Friendly.

And all those bulk flavors come in $5 pouches.

Until Covid gave them an excuse to end it the majority of small cafes in Missouri allowed smoking anywhere.

Some still do bring an ashtray.

To put a Missourian in a segregated smoking area would cause him to walk away. If he can smoke he can smoke, but he won’t smoke in a certain place.

I'm talking premium like MM965. You're not getting that quality for so little.

 

[Lees65GTO]

Most of em’ are likely reading this.

You are correct sir. We are all here.

 

[tobakenist]

I'm in the UK and I know many pipe smokers, not as many when I was in my youth but I am lucky as my Partner enjoys a pipe occasionally, She say's, that smell's nice, can I try a bowl, She now has a collection of pipes that She has stolen from my collection, luckily She hasn't stolen any of my Peterson's or my Freehand's. Just got to get her to clean her own pipes, that's never going to happen.

 

[Briar Lee]

I'm talking premium like MM965. You're not getting that quality for so little.

The $10 a pound shag grade is ordinary tobacco. It’s good, it’s well cured, aged, and comes in maybe thirty or forty flavors. The overwhelming most of it is stuffed into tubes or rolled into cigarettes. All of these come in one ounce trial packages for about a dollar, and I’ve tried them. They do smoke well in a real pipe. They are mild and not what we are used to but if that’s all the tobacco there was we’d smoke it and be happy.

Two pounds of shag stuff 2,000 cigarettes, 10 cartons of filter smokes and good ones. They have several flavors of Turkish. The best shag is $16 a pound and the cheapest $10.

At $20 per twelve ounce bag there are maybe ten flavors apiece of Sutliff and Lane. It’s pipe shop aromatics. These are all good, premium pipe tobaccos.

Then there’s the pouches of Half and Half and Velvet and Sir Walter Raleigh and Palladin Blackcherry and big tubs of Prince Albert, Carter Hall, and Half and Half. Velvet and Half and Half have 7 ounce $20 tubs.

The most premium lines usually carried are usually Captain Black, Borlum Riff, rarely Amphora at about $9.

To get any of the ultra premium little round cans of tobacco is rare but I’ve seen them, high as hell, $15 to $20. There’s little demand. Haddo’s Delight seems a top seller, and Cult Blood Red Moon.

Latikia blends are only in ultra premium little cans.

Were I the Pipe Tobacco Czar I’d declare a special tax class for historical tobaccos that came in a two ounce or less cotton sack with strings or a one and a half ounce metal pocket tin. These must come with free papers, no warning labels, so long as they duplicated old products.

I miss the old guys with pocket tins of PA or Velvet, and the men who smoked Bull Durham, Our Advertiser, Country Gentleman or Old Hillside with the strings outside their bibs.

The tax would be a nickel a sack or a dime a can.

Just because we need to put Prince Albert back in his can.

 

[didimauw]

Well, let's see: there's you, me, Kevin, sablebrush52, georged, cosmicfolklore, Chasing Embers, JimInks (at the rate he goes through tobacco he should be equivalent to at least 50 pipe-smokers), jpmcwjr, warren, woodsroad, ashdigger, tbradsim1, Haji (on second thought, wasn't he obsessed wtih lighters?) kcghost, Brian Levine, condorlover1, didimauw, jguss, ssjones, starcat (no, wait, we don't know if he/she is still smoking)...
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(Still typing names...)

Hey I made the list! So I really am a pipe smoker now!!! Yay.

 

[Briar Lee]

Here’s a $10 pipe made of pear a former legal assistant bought her boss who has a hundred Lees out on display , from a little store front smoke shop, no doubt.



There will never be an oxblood red color appear on this while the “good sap” flavors the smoke.

But damn, this is an equal smoker to any Lee I own. It didn’t really need break in. It takes 9mm filters that really, really work—-too well for an addict like me.

It’s in rotation now for three years. It likely gets way more use than it’s proper share.

The tobacco is cheap $20 a big bag Smoker Friendly (Sour) Cherry Sutliff, absolutely delicious, and as far as I can find it’s unique, no other tart cherry blend I know.

I don’t smoke this to be grateful I smoke it because it’s a really good pipe.


There are lots of people out there burning through those bags of Sour Cherry like me.

They have a hard time keeping that in stock.

Support your local smoke shop, the ones that don’t sell booze or stoner’s supllies or anything but cheap tobacco stuff.

 

[Hillcrest]

Per American Lung Association:

Percent of Adults Who Use Pipe Tobacco by Age and Sex, 2002-2018*

	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	% Change 2002-2018
Total
18-25	1.1	0.9	1.2	1.5	1.3	1.2	1.4	1.7	1.8	1.9	1.8	2.2	1.9	1.8	1.7	1.6	1.9	68.8
≥26	0.8	0.6	0.7	0.8	0.9	0.8	0.6	0.7	0.7	0.7	0.9	0.7	0.7	0.8	0.7	0.8	0.7	-11.6
Male
18-25	1.7	1.4	2.1	2.3	2.2	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	2.7	55.9
≥26	1.3	1.2	1.3	1.6	1.7	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	1.1	-13.3
Female
18-25	0.4	0.4	0.4	0.6	0.5	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	1.1	164.5
≥26	0.2	0.1	0.1	0.2	0.2	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	0.3	59.5

Source:
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Office of Applied Studies. National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 2002-2018.

Apparently the market is expected to increase in the next 7 years:

2023-2030 | Tobacco Pipe Market Research

"Tobacco Pipe Market" Insights 2023 By Types (Briar Type, Meerschaum Type, Corn Cob Type, Others), Applications (Above 60 Years Old, 18-60 Years Old) , Regions and Forecast to 2030. The global Tobacco Pipe market size is projected to reach multimillion USD by 2030, in comparison to 2023, with unexpe

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[fireground_piper]

Per American Lung Association:

Percent of Adults Who Use Pipe Tobacco by Age and Sex, 2002-2018*

	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018	% Change 2002-2018
Total
18-25	1.1	0.9	1.2	1.5	1.3	1.2	1.4	1.7	1.8	1.9	1.8	2.2	1.9	1.8	1.7	1.6	1.9	68.8
≥26	0.8	0.6	0.7	0.8	0.9	0.8	0.6	0.7	0.7	0.7	0.9	0.7	0.7	0.8	0.7	0.8	0.7	-11.6
Male
18-25	1.7	1.4	2.1	2.3	2.2	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	2.7	55.9
≥26	1.3	1.2	1.3	1.6	1.7	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	1.1	-13.3
Female
18-25	0.4	0.4	0.4	0.6	0.5	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	1.1	164.5
≥26	0.2	0.1	0.1	0.2	0.2	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	0.3	59.5

Source:
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Office of Applied Studies. National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 2002-2018.

Apparently the market is expected to increase in the next 7 years:

2023-2030 | Tobacco Pipe Market Research

"Tobacco Pipe Market" Insights 2023 By Types (Briar Type, Meerschaum Type, Corn Cob Type, Others), Applications (Above 60 Years Old, 18-60 Years Old) , Regions and Forecast to 2030. The global Tobacco Pipe market size is projected to reach multimillion USD by 2030, in comparison to 2023, with unexpe

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Yeah but those folks are also a bunch of morons. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t that chart mean there are more 18-25 year old pipe smokers than 26-dead year old pipe smokers? That seems super reliable.

 

[Hillcrest]

Yeah but those folks are also a bunch of morons. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t that chart mean there are more 18-25 year old pipe smokers than 26-dead year old pipe smokers? That seems super reliable.

No, I think you're reading the chart wrong. Its the percentage of pipe tobacco smokers year to year for each age group and it is increasing year to year. Cigarretes are down and vaping and pipes are up. The second link is the industry is supposed to increase from $73mil to $84 mil in next seven yrs.
So ... everything will still be available just more expensive.

Its as good as any other survey or statistical analysis ... none of this is set in stone ... its not like election results !

 

[didimauw]

Our site stats say 29,198

So that's how many pipe smokers there are.

 

[Streeper541]

There's at least 1,600.

 

[bullet08]

I started smoking cigs when I was 12. Had some interest in pipes, but didn't own one till late 40. But was into cigars from much early on. I doubt many cig or cigar smokers care about pipes. And most who tries pipe, quit rather quickly due to the steep learning curve.

I'm afraid pipe smokers are a rare breed now days. Convenience of cigarettes put pipes on the back burner.

 

[Servant King]

42.

 

[Bbailey324]

42.

What was the question?

 

[Hillcrest]

I suspect if you remove Smoker's Pride Cherry and Captain Black Grape the numbers drop way down ...

 

[Servant King]

What was the question?

Yes.

 

[Streeper541]

What was the question?

Doesn't matter.

 

[Bwana Kiko]

Besides, folks lie, especially about their vices.

Wait... pipe-smoking is a vice?

How did I miss that memo?!

 

[macaroni]

A little blurb of information:

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To assess recent national estimates of commercial tobacco use among U.S. persons aged ≥18 years, CDC, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the National Cancer Institute analyzed 2021 National Health Interview Survey (NHIS) data. In 2021, an estimated 46 million U.S. adults (18.7%) reported currently using any tobacco product, including cigarettes (11.5%), e-cigarettes (4.5%), cigars (3.5%), smokeless tobacco (2.1%), and pipes (including hookah)* (0.9%).† Among those who used tobacco products, 77.5% reported using combustible products (cigarettes, cigars, or pipes), and 18.1% reported using two or more tobacco products.

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There have to be a few other pipe smokers in this county of 16,000 because one package liquor store and one grocery store carry a tiny selection of real pipe tobacco.

But I don’t know any, besides me.

But we pipe smokers are few and far between.

And let’s divide up the pipe smokers for this discussion. A lot of cigarette and cigar smokers own a few pipes.

Let’s call a person a pipe smoker if they smoke a pipe at least a few times a week. Once in a while isn’t enough, to qualify as a regular pipe smoker.

And to drill down further, a devoted pipe smoker no longer gets tongue bite, their pipe doesn’t gurgle, and they have lots of tampers, and they fire up a pipe with morning coffee...

Ha! Yep! Great thread

 

[BCF]

Well there's thirteen hundred and fifty-two guitar pickers in Nashville...
Maybe fewer pipe smokers than that there?