How Come We Don't See Counterfeit Pipes?

[huntertrw]

Briar Lee:

Regarding your "mystery" pipe (see image below), Richard Dunhill (one of Alfred's grandsons) passed in 2016. Some time after that, an eBay seller offered a selection of his personal pipes for sale, one or two of which I bid on and lost...badly. If memory serves, I believe that some of them were stamped "Not for sale." I do not recall, however, if those pipes carried the typical Dunhill production stamps.

While probably not Mr. Richard's own (I believe that he favored straight-grains), this pipe might, as others have suggested, have been made by and/or for a Dunhill employee.

It looks like a pip. May it reward you with pleasant companionship throughout the years.

 

[Hillcrest]

You and ThermionicScott are right; there is a link —to a Cricket site!— that he inserted disguised as a quote from Sea Rock. Good catch; I thought it was from Sea Rock until I looked further. From a Die Heart fan....

Well ... that's not very cricket of him !

 

[mawnansmiff]

For every real Rolex, there are probably thousands of fake ones.

I heard a story, many years ago about a guy who took a fake Rolex into a watch repairer somewhere in the States for service.

The guy behind the counter studied the watch with his eyepiece then reached under his desk and pulled out a hammer and proceeded to smash the watch to bits!

Naturally the guy was more than a little cheesed off and called in the cops who after a brief chat with the watch repair guy sold the unfortunate owner he had no case as apparently it is illegal in certain states to own fake anything.

How true that is I cannot say but I wouldn't be surprised if it is indeed true.

Jay.

 

[rakovsky]

It's not literally a counterfeit, but I got a pipe online that was Chinese made because it looked pretty and reminded me of quality brands that I'd seen go for high prices like Dunhill. I was a new piper and didn't realize the problems that these super cheap Chinese pipes have. The pipe that I got was called an Eclipse, and it came with the Fang Sheng logo on its pipestand. It rightly said that it was "wood", without specifying further. It ended up having a bunch of problems, like the draw hole in the shank being too narrow and the chamber overheating. I got a lip ulcer practically every time that I smoked it. Alot of these kinds of Chinese pipes are made from "ebony" wood, which is a known irritant. Other times they list themselves as having "pear wood". The pipe had such a dark layer of varnish on the outside that I couldn't easily tell what kind of wood it was made from. I threw mine out and would feel bad even giving it as a gift to someone, out of fear that they could have similar problems. I expected sites like Amazon to have enough quality control that I wouldn't end up buying something so substandard without realizing it.

 

[huntertrw]

How Come We Don't See Counterfeit Pipes?​

Ah, but apparently we do!

 

[BingBong]

I heard a story, many years ago about a guy who took a fake Rolex into a watch repairer somewhere in the States for service.

The guy behind the counter studied the watch with his eyepiece then reached under his desk and pulled out a hammer and proceeded to smash the watch to bits!

Naturally the guy was more than a little cheesed off and called in the cops who after a brief chat with the watch repair guy sold the unfortunate owner he had no case as apparently it is illegal in certain states to own fake anything.

How true that is I cannot say but I wouldn't be surprised if it is indeed true.

Jay.

In the UK, if you send a fake to the Rolex Service Centre, they put it under a steam hammer or equivalent and you'll never see it again. When I sent mine in, it was a niggling worry lol.

 

[BingBong]

It's not literally a counterfeit, but I got a pipe online that was Chinese made because it looked pretty and reminded me of quality brands that I'd seen go for high prices like Dunhill. I was a new piper and didn't realize the problems that these super cheap Chinese pipes have. The pipe that I got was called an Eclipse, and it came with the Fang Sheng logo on its pipestand. It rightly said that it was "wood", without specifying further. It ended up having a bunch of problems, like the draw hole in the shank being too narrow and the chamber overheating. I got a lip ulcer practically every time that I smoked it. Alot of these kinds of Chinese pipes are made from "ebony" wood, which is a known irritant. Other times they list themselves as having "pear wood". The pipe had such a dark layer of varnish on the outside that I couldn't easily tell what kind of wood it was made from. I threw mine out and would feel bad even giving it as a gift to someone, out of fear that they could have similar problems. I expected sites like Amazon to have enough quality control that I wouldn't end up buying something so substandard without realizing it.

I have a Chinese-made Churchwarden, rosewood apparently. It smokes hotter than a two-dollar pistol.

 

[Speak Easy]

Here’s a strange one. Just got this in the mail yesterday all the way from Canada. Counterfeit? Sure looks like it. But why counterfeit an English pipe and make it from Canada. Paid less than 20$ for it. I figured at the least it would make a good conversation piece.

 

[condorlover1]

I have seen knock off Falcon Pipes and came across one sorting out the late Weezels pipes the other year. I have seen a few crudely stamped pipes marked 'Dunehill' in a flea market but the economics of making them just don't compute. To turn a profit you would have to sell a pot load of the things!

 

[rakovsky]

I have a Chinese-made Churchwarden, rosewood apparently. It smokes hotter than a two-dollar pistol.

Did it say Rosewood, or were you able to tell it was rosewood by looking at it.
I ask because I couldn't figure out what my Eclipse pipe with the Chang Feng logo was made of.
I found that similar pipes as to mine were listed as "Ebony", and that Ebony is something that Chinese sometimes make pipes from. But I couldn't identify it through the dark brown varnish, so I don't know what it was actually made from.

Here's one being sold on Ebay that looks like mine.

 

[Alejo R.]

A model that has been proven to be false has already been discussed here.

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[Alejo R.]

Here’s a strange one. Just got this in the mail yesterday all the way from Canada. Counterfeit? Sure looks like it. But why counterfeit an English pipe and make it from Canada. Paid less than 20$ for it. I figured at the least it would make a good conversation piece. View attachment 352615View attachment 352616View attachment 352617View attachment 352618

Maybe they were trying to refer to the shape of the pipe rather than the origin of the pipe with "Canadian". Capital E's are usually found on Canadian Dunhills. Maybe they copied the prints from a random Dunhill pipe.
Not taking into account the difference in shapes between the copy and the copied one.

 

[anotherbob]

anyone mention how it's just easier to mis date a pipe or overcharge through just telling some idiot the pipe is super rare.

 

[BingBong]

Did it say Rosewood, or were you able to tell it was rosewood by looking at it.
I ask because I couldn't figure out what my Eclipse pipe with the Chang Feng logo was made of.
I found that similar pipes as to mine were listed as "Ebony", and that Ebony is something that Chinese sometimes make pipes from. But I couldn't identify it through the dark brown varnish, so I don't know what it was actually made from.

Here's one being sold on Ebay that looks like mine.

It was listed as rosewood, I think. It certainly can't stay cool.

 

[bullet08]

Too much work for not enough return. Then again, there are counterfeit watches that work as well as original. And counterfeit currency.

I think at certain point, it's not a crime but a desire to see if one can recreate something so perfect. Then sell it. Okay, so it's still about money.

 

[woodsroad]

I dunno.
You dopes have bought dozens of my fake Dunhills.