How Can People Taste Anything Without Retrohaling?

[TheWhale13]

I just ate a sub through my nose. It was so much better. The flavors were OMG.

You are welcome!

 

[Bobby Bailey]

Ultimately it comes down to we are each individual. No one tobacco tastes the same to a room full of different people, nor does it all smell the same.

I don't retrohale. When I have, it just tastes like standing over a trash fire. Since in my normal enjoyment of my day I avoid standing over trash fires, it makes sense for me to not retrohale.
For those for which retrohale is enjoyable, my hat is off to you. Just don't expect me to want to stand over the trash fire.

 

[augiebd]

I retrohale almost always. It makes me look like a pissed off dragon.

Best argument for the retrohale, beats any debate about taste hands down!

 

[sablebrush52]

Which if you had it would not surprise you at all that many chefs have dulled their senses mostly through hard living. It's a freaking stressful job. I remember people in offices freaking out about deadlines and thinking in kitchens you have nothing but deadlines minutes apart.
Additionally just like most creative professions it seems like the most sense damaged, uninspired, chronically insipid, and generally average folks have the biggest heads and the most confidence in their eminent deification. Seriously all of the worst chefs I have worked with all thought that they'd win for sure if they got on that show. It's actually funny how many times I've heard a co-worker make fun of someone on that show for doing something they do regularly and under less pressure.

This presumes that they are burn outs, facts not in evidence.

And it's more complex that that even. Taste is also effected by moods and visual presentation. The same food on a nicer plate tastes better (and it's not just in peoples heads, well not the way people usually mean when they say that). There is a lot going on with the senses and it's not all physiological. I would venture that the act of intentionally doing any action to get more flavor will work simply through intention (as one of the key factors)i.e. focusing.
Also anything that you put in your mouth will be smelled (the size of a scent particle is unimaginably small and easily dispersed). Demonstrable example Skittles and most seltzers aren't flavored they have smells added to them. Even if you plug your nose those compounds will come in contact with the scent nerve cluster. Last thing smoke can dry out the nasal membrane which can actually make the sense of smell weaker (temporarily moisture is needed for that organ to work properly) which means that in some people snorking might lead to needing to snork to get full flavor because their snorking dried out their nose.

You can complicate and obfuscate it all you want. It's still the same stream at the same moment under the same conditions whether Jupiter is ascending, my dog is barking, a rocket has crashed into the moon, you're having your period, or someone in Congress has had an intelligent thought.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Anybody else getting a sense of Fifty Shades of BROBS?

 

[olkofri]

Forget retrohaling... if you REALLY wanna taste right, you have to RUMINATE the smoke!

 

[anotherbob]

This presumes that they are burn outs, facts not in evidence.

Again clearly not an industry you've had the misfortune of working in. The evidence is that it is an insane job that most people can't do while staying sane or sober. Seriously the only environment that getting drunk on the weekend gets you labeled a straight edge. It's the nature of the beast.

You can complicate and obfuscate it all you want. It's still the same stream at the same moment under the same conditions whether Jupiter is ascending, my dog is barking, a rocket has crashed into the moon, you're having your period, or someone in Congress has had an intelligent thought.

Sense and sense perception are incredible complicated.

 

[sablebrush52]

Again clearly not an industry you've had the misfortune of working in. The evidence is that it is an insane job that most people can't do while staying sane or sober. Seriously the only environment that getting drunk on the weekend gets you labeled a straight edge. It's the nature of the beast.

Sense and sense perception are incredible complicated.

Still a presumption with facts not in evidence.
Sense perception is complicated yet we are able to correctly recognize what we are sensing, without which we would be extinct.

 

[anotherbob]

Still a presumption with facts not in evidence.
Sense perception is complicated yet we are able to correctly recognize what we are sensing, without which we would be extinct.

I could say the same thing about your statements and observations on the entertainment industry. Heck I might even trust your impressions on what makes a person work to get into that industry or end up there. Sure statistics might be better, but personal first hand experience and observation isn't exactly nothing.

 

[Casual]

What’s the Venn diagram of water flushers and retrohalers? Are we building teams on bizarrely divisive topics?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I can't retrohale or my sinuses would go berserk; however, I can still taste. I'm not sure why people can't taste without doing this... but... whatever.

 

[Singularis]

Taste and smell are very different things, and furthermore, retrohaling does NOT eqaul smelling.

While I do usually retrohale a couple times during the course of any bowl, I do all I can to smell the exhaled smoke, even on a windy day outside while walking. And that helps create a truly good experience while smoking.

 

[Morrison Jeremiah]

If I eat an apple I can taste it.
I don't snort bits of it out of my nose

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Jeesh, after reading this thread, I realize what a Monty Python-esque type of conversation this is.

We do taste with our sense of smell. However, not all tastes need smell, but some do. For example it is virtually impossible to differentiate a lime from a lemon on taste alone, as the more subtle differences come from smell. Try it.

However, I do not have to run lime and lemon juices through my sinuses to smell the differences.
That makes my sinuses hurt just thinking about it.

Snorking is not completely unnecessary to taste or smell... however, many get more of a nic bump when they do this, because it is easier to get more nicotine ingested into our bodies via the sinuses.

Obviously, one can get the aroma of the smoke without having to drag a puff through their sinuses.

Jeesh folks.

 

[Kooky]

I just ate a sub through my nose. It was so much better. The flavors were OMG.

Next time eat your sub with a clothespin on your nose.

 

[TheWhale13]

This has been a fun thread

 

[sablebrush52]

I could say the same thing about your statements and observations on the entertainment industry. Heck I might even trust your impressions on what makes a person work to get into that industry or end up there. Sure statistics might be better, but personal first hand experience and observation isn't exactly nothing.

You could if I was only making up generalizations about my field, but I'm often quite specific. Look, this is about your need to have the final word, more than actually contributing anything of value to this thread, so go ahead and satisfy yourself.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Anybody else getting a sense of Fifty Shades of BROBS?

I was thinking that we should rename Anotherbob to AnotherBROB

 

[warren]

Sure statistics might be better, but personal first hand experience and observation isn't exactly nothing.

It's simply anecdotal, nothing more. Anecdotal observations are valid, to a point. They require no defense when challenged as they are simply observations/experience, interesting only as such. Much like unsupported opinions.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I was thinking that we should rename Anotherbob to AnotherBROB

I was thinking the same thing.