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AroEnglish

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Jan 7, 2020
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#62
I want to get a small (chamber 1.3x0.75 max), short (under 4.75"), lightweight (under 1oz), spigot meer but haven't figured out exactly what I want. I do want it to have a classic look/ proportions but I'm not sure about the shape or the chubbiness. I think I want to do either:
  • A straight, slim billiard
  • A bent, fat billiard
  • A straight, fat apple
I'm looking for any pics for inspiration or suggestions/thoughts.
 

HawkeyeLinus

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I chose to use elements from photos I’d taken of Muckross Abbey near Killarney which we had visited, particularly its famous and centuries old Yew tree. Here are some pics - the stem is what came with it, I had to replace it and Doug Finlay was kind enough to do that work. So maybe something visited on a trip or favorite spot in general.

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AroEnglish

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Jan 7, 2020
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#62
I like spigots, but I’m not sure if you can get the right proportions with a slim billiard
Short, chunky ones definitely
This is the only army mount meer in my collection
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These stubby chubbys are all briars. But not spigots.
But their profiles/shapes and size maybe close to what you’re looking for
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This is exactly the inspiration I was looking for. And I think you're right about the spigot. The only reason I wanted to opt of a spigot was I didn't know if meer carvers did army mounts that weren't spigots. I guess you don't know if you don't ask.
 

cosmicfolklore

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The only thing that makes me cringe slightly about a spigot or Army mount on a meer, is knowing that there is a slight taper to the stems on those and the stem stays in place by compression of the surrounding block. On a Briar, the ferrule keeps the wood from flaring out too much, but the briar is somewhat spongy or flexible. On a meer spigot, you have the soft stone compressing the stem. If shoved with a little too much force, the ferrule is not going to prevent that soft stone from crumbling.
But, I agree that they do look cool, as I have always had an aesthetic preference for metalwork on a pipe.

My ideal Meer would be a large fat squat bully with a good sized bowl, slight bend on a tapered stem. I see them every now and then, but they usually sell faster than I can pull the trigger.
 

AroEnglish

Rehabilitant
Jan 7, 2020
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#62
The only thing that makes me cringe slightly about a spigot or Army mount on a meer, is knowing that there is a slight taper to the stems on those and the stem stays in place by compression of the surrounding block. On a Briar, the ferrule keeps the wood from flaring out too much, but the briar is somewhat spongy or flexible. On a meer spigot, you have the soft stone compressing the stem. If shoved with a little too much force, the ferrule is not going to prevent that soft stone from crumbling.
But, I agree that they do look cool, as I have always had an aesthetic preference for metalwork on a pipe.

My ideal Meer would be a large fat squat bully with a good sized bowl, slight bend on a tapered stem. I see them every now and then, but they usually sell faster than I can pull the trigger.
Thanks for the insight, Michael! I'll keep that in mind when inserting the stem.
 
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Ahi Ka

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The only thing that makes me cringe slightly about a spigot or Army mount on a meer, is knowing that there is a slight taper to the stems on those and the stem stays in place by compression of the surrounding block. On a Briar, the ferrule keeps the wood from flaring out too much, but the briar is somewhat spongy or flexible. On a meer spigot, you have the soft stone compressing the stem. If shoved with a little too much force, the ferrule is not going to prevent that soft stone from crumbling.
But, I agree that they do look cool, as I have always had an aesthetic preference for metalwork on a pipe.

My ideal Meer would be a large fat squat bully with a good sized bowl, slight bend on a tapered stem. I see them every now and then, but they usually sell faster than I can pull the trigger.
On my military mount meers the ferrule sits proud of the meer shank, so the compression/friction which holds the stem in places comes from the silver not the stone. At least that’s how I recall them. No pipes on me except a cob and moonshine.
 

cosmicfolklore

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Aug 9, 2013
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On my military mount meers the ferrule sits proud of the meer shank, so the compression/friction which holds the stem in places comes from the silver not the stone. At least that’s how I recall them. No pipes on me except a cob and moonshine.
Interesting. I will have to get me a meer-spig just to see the mechanicals on that.
 

Ahi Ka

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Here’s some inspiration aroman.


I’m always drawn to antique, but this one is even calling out to me.

Also, cosmic, it has a close up of the inside of the ferrule 🤙🏼
 
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