Thank you guys for you help.I will be buying few of the pipes you guys suggested.The one I bought is a rossi rubino 8320 I really like that author shape.I can't wait to load that jewel with some 1792.I have learned thru my first purchase that I will have to raise the amount to spend on a pipe on occasion.I say this because while looking I found stanwell Hans c. Anderson pipe that blew me away.It is bent Dublin that comes with a church warden stem.Its around 180 I think.