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GLP's Virginia Cream, I ordered ten upon first hearing about it, and I had never been let down before by a GLP blend. Well, there is a first for everything. I just didn't "get" it. And, in talking to Greg, he just wasn't making any sense either. But, I gave it a tins worth, and then came back to it a couple of months later. I approached it as a non-aromatic and used my Virginia pipes, and now it's a favorite of mine.

 

mso489

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Cosmic, that's a notable experience. Sometimes knowing how to "go at" a blend makes a difference.

 

krizzose

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Feb 13, 2013
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Cosmic, thanks for the reminder on Virginia Cream. That’s one I put away after a few ho hum bowls. I’ll have to give it another go soon.
Jay,
I think you’ll find it worth the wait. One thing I really like about it is that, while they certainly complement each other well, the various components really stand out.

 

perdurabo

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Jun 3, 2015
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Cosmic, GLPVC is an every other bowl stellar blend, for me. Maybe I should try it in a meerschaum, clay, or cob. I smoked one tin in the same large basket pipe. Since then I've dedicated that pipe to aromatics, should have allowed VC to court other pipes before the break up.
I've never had an experience where I hate a blend and then decide I like it months later. It's usually the other way around.

 

krizzose

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I’m in the middle of a bowl of The Virginia Cream, and it’s much better than my last experience with it a couple of years ago. I remember that my main objection back then was a bitter harsh note that was pervasive. That’s entirely gone now. The first little bit of the bowl has on odd eggnog thing going on, and I can’t stand eggnog, but it goes away and the vanilla comes to the fore for the rest of the bowl. Previously I thought I may have made a mistake buying multiple tins, but this will be a nice change of pace blend for me.

 

alexnc

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That may be one of my modus operandi. I've found many a blend I socked away to permanent storage that I loved later. To add to that most of the blends I love right away don't stick around. MSO also changed my ritual with his post 'why not burley'. Because of that post I unearthed a rejected store of OJK and loved it of course - to motivate me to properly explore burley blends, which are now a staple.

 
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I never go back to blends I didn't like the first time. There's so many of them and so little time! Plus I smoke something like 15 pipes a month on average, less in winter. I basically stick to my favorite tobaccos and try a new one once in a while.

 

mso489

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alexnc, I'm glad you added burley to your menu. Some people just don't like it in any form, and others really can't taste it, but if you can enjoy burley, it is a real addition to the pipe experience. OJK is mightly good, to me.

 
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Cosmic:"That's like a day for me, ha ha."
But then summer comes and it's cigar and pipe season. Still I like smoking pipes and cigars in a moderate manner, I don't like heavy breathing when I train. I live by the motto, balance in all things so that technically I have a better chance of enjoying life for a longer time. Of course there's no guarantee. :D

 
I don't like heavy breathing when I train

I totally agree. Since quitting cigarettes, I have been enjoying my mountain bike a lot more, and I've been going to a gym nearly every day since Christmas. I'm not sure how pipes would negatively affect breathing, since you're not supposed to inhale, but since quitting cigs and going full on pipes, I can run three miles... without dying. I still breath heavy after running... and random phone calls, ha ha. :puffy:

 
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There's always some involuntary inhaling going on and in my case I realized that by keeping my smoking to low levels, I perform better physically and I enjoy my pipe smoking more. Everybody is different, the thing is to find your pace and level of contentment. Sometimes I indulge in heavy smoking, I'm not a saint. :twisted:

But I also know that nothing is free in life, there always a price to pay.

 

npod

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Like above, Mac Baren Old Dark Fired was one I came back to and then it was a regular.
I wish that any of the Lakeland Essence blends would be the comeback kid. But I no for sure they won't. I've tried every way possible to enjoy them and finally gave up the fight.

 

mso489

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To put it a different way, if you try a blend and don't like it, and get rid of it in the first week or two, you may be missing a blend you could really like. I think for most of us stubborn enough to try again, about half the rejected blends turn out to be quite tasty, for one reason or another. A little age helps the blend, or we figure out how to better smoke it, or our tastes change, or the humidity changes, or the blend dries out to a better humidity, etc. Also, sometimes we try a new blend when we're not in a receptive mood, and just don't like it because of that.

 
I have always been fascinated with people who develop strong food dislikes and get away with it. You know, people who would never eat a tomato, or mustard, or mayonnaise. That sort of thing never existed in my family. However, as a kid I had a friend who stayed with us, and told my mother that he didn't eat a long list of foods. My mom told him that he would starve to death if he didn't get over those "issues." She even proposed that if he had a problem with it, he could call someone to come and get him right now. He stayed, and learned a few things about living.
I wonder if being brought up in a home where finickiness was tolerated leads to people having strong dislikes. I mean, everyone has dislikes, but not everyone dislikes things to as much an extreme as some people. I am not a latakia fan, but there are a few that I will smoke, even enjoy. And, even though I have never had a lat bomb that I liked, I will still give one a try if still new to me. I feel that smoking things like this teaches me what exactly I don't like about them, and sometimes I realize that I don't feel the same way anymore. So, I do like this or that.
Like my friend who said he didn't like tomatoes or onions or garlic... He may have tried them by themself and had an adverse reaction, then vowed in a superstition that it will always taste that way to him, therefore he will never eat them again, as if tomatoes always taste the same way all the time... same with latakia or aromatics. Then, even if he tries them again, he knows that he won't like them before he even tries them.
Sorry, just pondering out loud. :puffy:

 

mso489

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Cosmic, interesting line(s) of thought. Along with you, I think the child who stayed with your family was probably using food to demand some attention in his own household, either because he was spoiled or because he was ignored. You had a wise mom to reset the ground rules, and that probably amounted to the attention he needed. Individual tastes are aggravating. I knew a woman who did scientific research on differences in taste for food among people. This was not focused on fussiness, but simply the ability of people to taste this and that, but in carefully designed studies. Different people taste things differently, sometimes symptomatic with various illnesses, sometimes as a genetic trait. As your mom knew, healthy people downplay these differences and don't belabor them. But they do exist. As a burley lover, I admit some can't taste it, some really have an aversion, and others of us think it is the essential leaf. My late wife loved most foods but really couldn't eat hominy -- I don't love it, but it's okay to me. Some people really don't like lamb, which I like, but I only accept liver as pate or occasionally liver sausage, but not cooked beef or chicken livers, which many people savor. Most other "traditional" foods I like -- veggies, fruits, meats I "know." I've not accustomed to tongue or brain, but these are beloved in cultures that regularly cook them.

 

thomasw

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Well I am not a picky eater or picky in general; I just do know my preferences. Knowing your preferences means that you know what you do not prefer, too. I can relate to Cosmic's take on latakia in blends; though it is not a leaf I prefer, there are always blends with it that I will try and some that I will learn to enjoy to some extent.
But with regard to Lakelands, I can relate to npod's remark:
I wish that any of the Lakeland Essence blends would be the comeback kid. But I know for sure they won't. I've tried every way possible to enjoy them...
Sometimes even after giving something a good try, it just doesn't suit you. It has been this way with Lakeland blends. And for me, it is a shame because if you go to TR.com and search for "Highly Recommended" VA-Bur or Burley blends -- my favourite tobacco genre -- it will become clear that GH & Co. is the maker who blends the largest number of the top rated VA-Bur blends listed. Now I have tried them and there are only two GH & Co. blends I can tolerate. And this annoys me because they are superb quality tobaccos, usually strong and available in bulk. I want to love them. But any hint of Lakeland that endures beyond the initial light is nasty. I wish there was a way to learn to appreciate that essence a bit more, as there are some fantastic VA-Bur blends that would be possible for me to engage.

 

mso489

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I don't hold myself responsible to any flavor that isn't tobacco. Just my way.

 
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