@ shikano53, the "staining" is actually not staining lol. Its a chemicle stain. Briar is low in tanins so you use a wine making liquid tanin. Then you use vinegar that has steel wool sitting in it. Gives a nice contrast and is darker than in the picture. I need to use my nice camera and lenses to capture a more accurate picture. But taking a nice pic is not easy with a real camera.