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sasquatch

Lifer
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most pipes go for me. So faking it would devalue it. I am not convinced that pipe pricing really means a terrible amount though.
"Pipe pricing" means how much you can get for your labor, if you are selling pipes. If you are faking pipes, putting time into a piece that you are going to sell for 30 dollars makes no sense at all. That's why we speak of fake Dunhills or that sort of thing, not that there's hundreds of those around anyhow. The idea that someone would take an unmarked pipe that they paid 20 dollars for, and fake it up to look like a Lee so they could sell it for 25 is ... just silly. No one's doing anything like that, nor ever has.
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
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"Pipe pricing" means how much you can get for your labor, if you are selling pipes. If you are faking pipes, putting time into a piece that you are going to sell for 30 dollars makes no sense at all. That's why we speak of fake Dunhills or that sort of thing, not that there's hundreds of those around anyhow. The idea that someone would take an unmarked pipe that they paid 20 dollars for, and fake it up to look like a Lee so they could sell it for 25 is ... just silly. No one's doing anything like that, nor ever has.
It would be like a fake Kaywoodie or dr Grabow
 

peregrinus

Lifer
Aug 4, 2019
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If you are faking pipes, putting time into a piece that you are going to sell for 30 dollars makes no sense at all.
Not unless you can sell at least hundreds or better, thousands, right?
I have not seen a flood of 3 star Lees on eBay.
Most people who create fake art, coins or other collectibles are lazy and looking to get the most return for the smallest effort. The price point and total market availability to encourage cheap nock-off Lee pipes doesn’t pencil out in this universe.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
"Pipe pricing" means how much you can get for your labor, if you are selling pipes. If you are faking pipes, putting time into a piece that you are going to sell for 30 dollars makes no sense at all. That's why we speak of fake Dunhills or that sort of thing, not that there's hundreds of those around anyhow. The idea that someone would take an unmarked pipe that they paid 20 dollars for, and fake it up to look like a Lee so they could sell it for 25 is ... just silly. No one's doing anything like that, nor ever has.
precisely. heck just calling it antique would up the price more.
 
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beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
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On the first 7 pointed star series pipes, you’ll occasionally find imperfect inlaid stars. It helps to take a jeweler’s loupe to examine them, and what happened was those gold stars were poured into the cavities. Some were overfilled, and there’s a splash.
I'm sorry, Mr. Briar Lee, but I just can't believe this statement. I would think that if one poured molten gold into a vulcanite stem cavity, that the result would be disastrous. I would think rubber melts at a lower temp than gold.
I also would guess that these stars are not gold, but brass. Probably extruded rod-stock. So what he had was a rod of star shaped brass stock. Heat it and stick it in the vulcanite, then cut it off flush with the stem material and sand/buff it smooth.
I'm not a pipe maker by any means, but this just seems more plausible.
But............ What the Hell do I know???.............
 

BROBS

Lifer
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I'm sorry, Mr. Briar Lee, but I just can't believe this statement. I would think that if one poured molten gold into a vulcanite stem cavity, that the result would be disastrous. I would think rubber melts at a lower temp than gold.
I also would guess that these stars are not gold, but brass. Probably extruded rod-stock. So what he had was a rod of star shaped brass stock. Heat it and stick it in the vulcanite, then cut it off flush with the stem material and sand/buff it smooth.
I'm not a pipe maker by any means, but this just seems more plausible.
But............ What the Hell do I know???.............
The smelting cup was the size of the tip of a ballpoint pen
 
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beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
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I didn't pick up on the pouring of hot metal into a small cavity in vulcanite until the above. Thanks, beef!

Not gonna happen that way, unless there are new laws of physics
I'm not familiar with pouring molten metals, but it seems to be damn near impossible to pour molten gold into a tiny carved out 7 point star in vulcanite........... and how would one carve out the star mold?.......... ?‍♂️
 
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BROBS

Lifer
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I'm not familiar with poring molten metals, but it seems to be damn near impossible to pour molten gold into a tiny carved out 7 point star in vulcanite........... and how would one carve out the star mold?.......... ?‍♂️
7 pointed star drill bit obv
 
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