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jacks6

Lifer
May 9, 2016
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3
I was encouraged by the report. Their great research and data team reports that 1% of high schoolers smoke a pipe. That means that at every single , normal size, high school. (say 1500 students). That means at every high school across the country there are 15 pipe smokers. That's a huge future market.
How loosely did they define "pipe"? I definitely knew at least 15 pot smokers, but not a single pipe tobacco smoker at that age.

 

p4ttythep3rf3ct

Might Stick Around
Mar 2, 2015
71
16
1% of high schoolers smoke a pipe.
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https://www.census.gov/hhes/school/data/cps/2014/tables.html
(.01*16654000) - Looks like about 166,540 pipe smokers with 82% of that refreshing every new year with a new class.
EDIT: I imagine some of these 1% are talking about glass pipes for marijuana. It's a pipe, after all, and they probably think they are being coy by answering such (yeah, I smoke a pipe...). I'm not sure this is a good or bad thing for the tobacco pipe cause. It is a demographic that shouldn't be ignored, however, and it's growing.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,127
Akron area of Ohio
I can't help but wonder if this would be happening if the RYO boys hadn't labeled their product "pipe tobacco". That being said I believe those gentle souls who protect us from ourselves have learned that no matter what a certain percentage of the population will use tobacco. Might as well tax the crap out of them. Obviously, e-cigs are area target. As usual, pipe smokers are collateral damage.

Mike S.

 

rx2man

Part of the Furniture Now
May 25, 2012
590
11
http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/RulesRegulationsGuidance/ucm252758.htm
This guidance is intended to assist manufacturers, distributors, retailers, and others who sell cigarettes and/or smokeless tobacco in understanding the final Regulations Restricting the Sale and Distribution of Cigarettes and Smokeless Tobacco to Protect Children and Adolescents and to explain what you should do in order to comply with the regulations. The document explains, among other things:

what and who are subject to the regulations;

prohibition on the sale and distribution of certain tobacco products to persons younger than 18 years of age;

restrictions on access, which consist largely of requirements concerning the sale of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco; and

labeling and advertising restrictions

The regulations currently apply to cigarettes, including roll-your-own tobacco; cigarette tobacco; and smokeless tobacco products (e.g., moist snuff, snus, dry snuff, nasal snuff, loose leaf chewing tobacco, plug chewing tobacco, and twist chewing tobacco).

FDA’s guidances, including this guidance, do not establish legally enforceable responsibilities. Instead, guidances describe the Agency’s current thinking on a topic and should be viewed only as recommendations, unless specific regulatory or statutory requirements are cited. The use of the word should in Agency guidances means that something is suggested or recommended, but not required.
So at this time none of this applies?? Until which time this does apply?? Or does the last bold area indicate this does apply at this time?

 

rx2man

Part of the Furniture Now
May 25, 2012
590
11
I realize this applies to those "who sell cigarettes and/or smokeless tobacco". But I registered on the FDA website out of curiosity as to how this whole thing will work. How am I supposed to be in compliance with their regulations in regards to making tobacco pipes. Even though I would never even be on their radar as slow as I am at making pipes. And of course when I was done I was informed their system was down.

 

rx2man

Part of the Furniture Now
May 25, 2012
590
11
http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/ProductsIngredientsComponents/ucm482580.htm
FDA Regulation of Pipe Tobacco
In 2016, FDA finalized a rule extending our regulatory authority to cover all tobacco products, including pipe tobacco. FDA now regulates the manufacture, import, packaging, labeling, advertising, promotion, sale, and distribution of pipe tobacco. This includes components and parts such as pipes, but excludes accessories such as lighters.
I have not read about the delivery of the other smoking substance, could a tobacco pipe be marketed as not a tobacco pipe....
Could a pipe be listed here and in the add say it is not for smoking tobacco. I am thinking of the wiggling around the ebay listings where you are buying the tin and not the contents of the tin.

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
20,704
48,962
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Could a pipe be listed here and in the add say it is not for smoking tobacco. I am thinking of the wiggling around the ebay listings where you are buying the tin and not the contents of the tin.
I don't see why not. eBay's been allowing sealed tins of tobacco to be listed as "the value is in the tin" and ""not for smoking". Who knew that the tin art on a tin of 1970's Balkan Sobranie could be worth $400!

 

jacks6

Lifer
May 9, 2016
1,005
3
I don't see why not. eBay's been allowing sealed tins of tobacco to be listed as "the value is in the tin" and ""not for smoking". Who knew that the tin art on a tin of 1970's Balkan Sobranie could be worth $400!
eBay discontinued that. Now you can't sell sealed tins - can't have any tobacco in them at all. They changed their rules in May.

 

jacks6

Lifer
May 9, 2016
1,005
3
Check "sold" listings and it's a different story - they must not have cleaned house yet today.

 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,392
70,232
61
Vegas Baby!!!
Interesting report. I was hoping for more baccy news but I'll take this.
Btw, I own two H. Wiebe pipes a short bent and a short poker. They smoke fantastic!! I've had more compliments when I'm out in public with them than any of my briars. Easy cleanup and multiple smokes from the same pipe. Really cut down my travel pipe gear.

 
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