European Union's New Biometric Border System Rolls Out This October

[woodsroad]

Eh, I'd argue that most religions prime us to accept the idea of constant, omniscient surveillance from a young age. But that's all the farther I'll go with this, here.

And compliance. Don't forget compliance.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Choose your master...

Awful, corrupt governments... or your creator who loves you more than you can imagine.

 

[Sobrbiker]

an entire generation of youth thinks that unlocking their phones with facial recognition is cool, hundreds of millions think sending a dna sample to find a snippet in a newspaper about great granny is amazing.
A minuscule percentage read the user agreements they tacitly consent to.
It’s a golden age, which will only be enhanced with the application of trained AI…

 

[brian64]

It's clear to me that we're at the part of this nightmare where they want us all to know what they're doing.

Name your distopic mass surveillance system after this...
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AND EXPECT ME TO THINK YOU HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.

It's a twisted form of abuse.

Next you'll be telling me I should be concerned about names like World Wide Web and Block Chain.

 

[brian64]

Yep. I won't wade those waters, but yep.

However I will make a distinction between the type of conspiracy theory that is validated by multiple independent and verifiable sources, versus the ones where the proof seems to always be "just out of reach."

In this particular case, the articles and firsthand accounts are all out there, and have been for years. What has lagged is public awareness on the matter.

Agreed. I'd just add two things to that:

1. The more outlandish and silly stuff, more often than not, is an intentional method of drowning out the signal with noise.

2. It's almost always easier to determine what is not true than what is. It's mostly a process of elimination. There are numerous "official narratives" that can be determined to be false in about 5 minutes with nothing more than common sense and deductive reasoning. Finding out exactly what DID happen can be much more difficult or even impossible without investigative authority...and those who have that are often oddly uninterested in asking the right questions.

 

[Sea Lord]

I wanted this to be informative, with regards to people intending to travel to the Schengen Zone, not to be caught with their pants down upon arrival, when they learn facial scans and finger prints are required, on top of their passport.

 

[AirOne]

I wanted this to be informative, with regards to people intending to travel to the Schengen Zone, not to be caught with their pants down upon arrival, when they learn facial scans and finger prints are required, on top of their passport.

I guess that for US travellers it is not really new, as I had to change my french passport to an electronic one with fingerprints more than 15 years ago , as it became a requisite to enter the US. Plus apply for an Esta, with what we may find intrusive questions. And when I arrived at the customs, it was the first time I experienced a camera while talking to the US Custom officier. Who asked me to turn on my computer to have a look. So nothing really new under the sun , It just took UE 15 years to implement the same Orwellian policy.

 

[greeneyes]

I wanted this to be informative, with regards to people intending to travel to the Schengen Zone, not to be caught with their pants down upon arrival, when they learn facial scans and finger prints are required, on top of their passport.

I would say that "pants down recognition technology" is a twist, but thinking on it a little, the millimeter-wavelength scans they implemented many years ago potentially had that covered. In fact when it first came out I remember distinctly several TSA agents getting in trouble for making inappropriate comments about people's anatomy.

 

[LOREN]

I know AI has glitches, but

I asked AI: How much storage in zettabytes are available in the US, not counting household computers

AI Answer: Based on industry estimates for total data center storage capacity:

The global data center storage capacity was estimated to be around 10.1 zettabytes (ZB) in 2023 and is projected to grow to approximately 21.0 ZB by 2027.

The US currently holds a significant portion of the world's commercial data centers, with some reports indicating the US accounts for roughly half of the world's operating capacity.

I asked AI: Approximately how many books that are the size of the book "War and Peace" can be stored in/on 1 zettabyte?

AI Answer: A single zettabyte can store approximately 500 trillion digital books the size of "War and Peace."

I think the fun starts when predictive analytics gets fine-tuned.

 

[Sea Lord]

I guess that for US travellers it is not really new, as I had to change my french passport to an electronic one with fingerprints more than 15 years ago , as it became a requisite to enter the US. Plus apply for an Esta, with what we may find intrusive questions. And when I arrived at the customs, it was the first time I experienced a camera while talking to the US Custom officier. Who asked me to turn on my computer to have a look. So nothing really new under the sun , It just took UE 15 years to implement the same Orwellian policy.

Well, it could be new to them as they will, now, have to be subjected to it when entering Europe. The CBP website specifies US citizens are not subjected to facial scans upon entry; but there's no indication as to finger prints. Unless US citizens already have their finger prints on their passport?
I had no idea CBP was already applying biometric border measures, and for so long. Being a Canadian citizen, I never had to show more than my passport when entering the US, even by air. Thus my ignorance of these measures.

 

[AirOne]

Well, it could be new to them as they will, now, have to be subjected to it when entering Europe. The CBP website specifies US citizens are not subjected to facial scans upon entry; but there's no indication as to finger prints. Unless US citizens already have their finger prints on their passport?
I had no idea CBP was already applying biometric border measures, and for so long. Being a Canadian citizen, I never had to show more than my passport when entering the US, even by air. Thus my ignorance of these measures.

CBP starting a few years after (and because of) 9/11 : 20-year Anniversary Report: Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Customs and Border Protection - https://www.biometricsinstitute.org/20-year-anniversary-report-department-of-homeland-security-u-s-customs-and-border-protection/

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Reading just the title of the thread, I imagined something like…



(If you know, you know.)
(Electronic exploding collars)

 

[Sea Lord]

Or this...

 

[Sea Lord]

From the report you included, I find this sentence to be particularly amusing:

'Whether air, land, or sea innovation, the use of facial biometrics is secure, efficient, and touchless and enhances the customer experience.'

 

[AJL67]

Welcome back to 15 minutes cities, but with better tracking.

In the US, they’re really smart. They just have clear and the TSA line where if you pay the money, they scan you take your fingerprints scan your retina and they have you on file to “make it easier for you to get on the plane“ so basically we’re paying them for the same thing lol