Estate Pipe Purchase Refusal
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I can understand your reluctance, though after a cleaning and a few days rest, any pipe will have lost any germs it may have had. I've bought second hand clothes from thrift stores, and once even (had to) wore it before washing at home. And I always wash new clothes before wearing! I've never worn previously owned boxer shorts or socks, must be some kind of line I've drawn in my unconscious.
I share the opinion of SS. Properly cleaned and sanitized an estate pipe is probably more sterile than one marketed as new for the reasons stated. I buy in the estate markets because either the pipes I want are no longer in production or because I can have a much more expensive pipe for a lot less money. When I was a young Marine the canteen I was issued had been issued to latterly hundreds before me, they all had their lips on the same neck I did. Properly sanitized things are recyclable.
It kills me how my daughters will cram just about anyone's earphones into their ear canals, no questions, but yet they freak out if one or the other takes a sip from their soda can.
Pipe smoking started off with guys, long before the invention of toothbrushes or dentistry, passing a pipe around as a sign of friendship.
Then here we are today, "ick! eww! Let me go wash my hands." Germicides, anti-bacterials, discenfectants... you'd have thought that we would never have made it up unto the 21st century without sanitizing our environments.
Nope, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. The more we expose ourselves to germs the stronger we are as a species. It will be the germophobes that will die of the next plague. They will be the weakest. Then the rest of us will step in and take their pipes from their cold dead hands. And, then we will smoke them without washing them, because... "There can be only ONE!"
Pipe smoking started off with guys, long before the invention of toothbrushes or dentistry, passing a pipe around as a sign of friendship.
Then here we are today, "ick! eww! Let me go wash my hands." Germicides, anti-bacterials, discenfectants... you'd have thought that we would never have made it up unto the 21st century without sanitizing our environments.
Nope, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. The more we expose ourselves to germs the stronger we are as a species. It will be the germophobes that will die of the next plague. They will be the weakest. Then the rest of us will step in and take their pipes from their cold dead hands. And, then we will smoke them without washing them, because... "There can be only ONE!"
Cosmic You make an acute observation about pipe smoking being a hobby of fraternity. Passing the pipe around. I have a couple of good buddies who when over for a visit, if they have forgotten their pipe are more than welcome to grab one off my rack.
Ha ha, Scarface, maybe they used them like precursors to the Falcon? Nah, they carried the stem and bowl separate, but they didn't switch stems between passes.
well I just bought a estate Rembrandt for seven dollars, they guy cleaned it and sterilized it, when I got it I cleaned the stem dip it in rum and I re reamed the bowl and did the salt treatment, I did what I could to get it at its best smoking condition, and guess what it smoked pretty damm good!! , the way I see it is that some of these pipes have history and it would be ashamed not to be used properly, I am planning to pass these pipes down to my children and hopefully they would use it, if they don't then at least keep them for memory sake or to pass them down to someone who will smoke some good tobacco on these pipes
Viruses in a pipe? Can anyone say what the life of a virus is when it's in a dry environment, no human or animal contact for more than X days? (or hours)?
Expanding a touch on the above question I'd like some feed back on a practice I developed: I let air dry all bottles that I might be reusing. Theory is that germs that can live in water die with the lack of it, and those that live in dry environments die in water. This may not be sound at all, as some germs may get along fine in both environments.
I am no doctor, but weren't viral poxes given to the Native Americans via infected blankets? And, I think that they are finding this new Ebola virus is having a several day or week shelf life outside the body.
Jvnshr thank you for not buying estates.
That makes one less person on this site I have to bid against on Ebay :nana:
That makes one less person on this site I have to bid against on Ebay :nana:
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines from 2008 states: “In the health care setting, ‘alcohol’ refers to two water-soluble chemical compounds — ethyl and isopropyl alcohol — that have generally underrated germicidal (killing) characteristics. FDA has not cleared any liquid chemical sterilant on high-level disinfectant with alcohol as the main active ingredient. These alcohols are rapidly bacteriocidal (bacteria killing) rather than bacteriostatic (stunting their growth) ... they are also tuberculocidal, fungicidal, virucidal, but do not destroy bacterial spores.”
Both alcohols, ethyl and isopropyl, can kill several bacteria in 10 seconds or fewer in the lab, including Staph aureus, Strep pyogenes, E. coli, Salmonella typhosa, and Pseudomonas species, some of the bad actors in infections. For M. tuberculosis, it may take as long as five minutes of contact. Many, but not all, viruses are goners, too, like HIV, hepatitis B, herpes, influenza, etc. Even some systemic bad fungal infections are susceptible, but again not all.
Alcohol rub sanitizers kill most bacteria, and fungi, and stop some viruses. Alcohol rub sanitizers containing at least 70% alcohol (mainly ethyl alcohol) kill 99.9% of the bacteria on hands 30 seconds after application and 99.99% to 99.999%[note 1] in one minute.
Both alcohols, ethyl and isopropyl, can kill several bacteria in 10 seconds or fewer in the lab, including Staph aureus, Strep pyogenes, E. coli, Salmonella typhosa, and Pseudomonas species, some of the bad actors in infections. For M. tuberculosis, it may take as long as five minutes of contact. Many, but not all, viruses are goners, too, like HIV, hepatitis B, herpes, influenza, etc. Even some systemic bad fungal infections are susceptible, but again not all.
Alcohol rub sanitizers kill most bacteria, and fungi, and stop some viruses. Alcohol rub sanitizers containing at least 70% alcohol (mainly ethyl alcohol) kill 99.9% of the bacteria on hands 30 seconds after application and 99.99% to 99.999%[note 1] in one minute.
Clean 'em up and smoke 'em. Silverware analogy is apt. If you have doubts, buy from one of the online estate retailers who does sanitation, like our sponsors. They are responsible sources and will check out the pipe's soundness as well as its cleanliness. Probably a good idea to observe a few dozen other sanitation habits like washing your hands after using the restroom, as about half the population doesn't do (watch 'em not do it). Protection for sex, etc.etc.
I don't buy used pipes simply because I do not want someone's discarded pipe. I would get no more satisfaction cleaning another person's pipe than I would from buying another person's old clothes and putting them through the laundry. Some people enjoy doing such, others do it so as to build an inexpensive rotation and others simply like amassing a number of pipes for various reasons. Different strokes!
As for the hygiene argument? A well cleaned pipe is most likely safer than turning on the tap in a public restroom and then washing your hands. I suspect most buyers of used pipes put more effort into the cleaning/restoration than they do washing their hands.
As for the hygiene argument? A well cleaned pipe is most likely safer than turning on the tap in a public restroom and then washing your hands. I suspect most buyers of used pipes put more effort into the cleaning/restoration than they do washing their hands.
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