Escudo packaging

[Pipeandapencil]

I opened my first tin of Escudo this month and was disappointed to be met with a square package inside the round tin. I was hoping for that beautiful layer of rounds placed around the the lovely pleated paper like all the internet pictures. It's petty but a tobacco like escudo is about experience and flavor so I felt a little shorted on experience. My question is, when did the packaging change? My tin is from late 2024.

 

[fireground_piper]

Pictures?

 

[Pipeandapencil]

what I got:

What I wanted:

 

[fireground_piper]

How did they layer it? In lines? Just a stack? First I would have seen that so I’m curious.

My guess would be it was an efficiency change from a packaging standpoint.

 

[Pipeandapencil]

I didn't take an original picture, and they're all almost gone now. I bought 5 more tins for cellar so I suppose it will be at least a year before I find out if it was a fluke. They were packed fairly neat in two columns one on top of the other to make two little rows more or less. I don't know what the old stuff tasted like, but what I had was absolutely perfect for my taste preferences. I honestly didn't want to like it that much.

 

[fireground_piper]

I believe STG had made Escudo for the past 20 years or so. I expect it hasn’t changed much during that time.

I know many blends that used to come in square tins moved to round tins with that style of square package insert. That’s what leads me to believe it was likely an efficiency change.

 

[ThermionicScott]

Yeah, I'm sure it was a manual effort to spread the coins around the tin nicely like playing cards. Maybe now the price of Escudo will go down! /s

 

[sablebrush52]

I believe STG had made Escudo for the past 20 years or so. I expect it hasn’t changed much during that time.

There have been changes to the blend, in 2013 and 2016, and that may have been a change in sourcing of components. I haven't bought any since 2016 and at that time the packaging was the traditional round white paper with the accordion folds over the top.

I bought 5 more tins for cellar so I suppose it will be at least a year before I find out if it was a fluke.

There's really no need to delay enjoying Escudo if it's anything like what I bought between 2013 and 2016. It doesn't really age. Five years in the cellar didn't change it much at all.

 

[Pipeandapencil]

There's really no need to delay enjoying Escudo if it's anything like what I bought between 2013 and 2016. It doesn't really age. Five years in the cellar didn't change it much at all.

Good to know! Would be disappointed to wait around for nothing.

 

[fireground_piper]

There have been changes to the blend, in 2013 and 2016, and that may have been a change in sourcing of components. I haven't bought any since 2016 and at that time the packaging was the traditional round white paper with the accordion folds over the top.


There's really no need to delay enjoying Escudo if it's anything like what I bought between 2013 and 2016. It doesn't really age. Five years in the cellar didn't change it much at all.

Yeah my guess is the packaging was changed when square tins seemingly disappeared.

Not that it was ever in a square tin, but maybe all flakes and coins are now packaged in the same process.

It’s a total guess, but everyone seems to be doing the square paper in round tin over the past year or two.

 

[anotherbob]

Personally I like the little square paper thing as flakes seem less broken up when packaged like that. Though frankly bulk is best.

 

[Sig]

I haven't had any sinse it was made by Peterson, maybe very early 2000s.
I do have a few tins in the cellar from 2023 so now I'm intrigued. Maybe I'll pop one open.

 

[sablebrush52]

I haven't had any sinse it was made by Peterson, maybe very early 2000s.
I do have a few tins in the cellar from 2023 so now I'm intrigued. Maybe I'll pop one open.

The A & C Petersen version remains my favorite. The STG stuff doesn't much resemble Escudo anymore.

 

[Terry Lennox]

So I'm guessing Peterson's Deluxe Navy Rolls is also now in the square paper insert? What about Davidoff Flake Medallions? All the same cut from the same factory so just curious if anyone knows. Most of my tins are from 5-10 years ago.

 

[BingBong]

So I'm guessing Peterson's Deluxe Navy Rolls is also now in the square paper insert? What about Davidoff Flake Medallions? All the same cut from the same factory so just curious if anyone knows. Most of my tins are from 5-10 years ago.

I had some fresh stock DNR about 15 months ago, trad round packaging. Likewise, more recently, Charatan Rolls which might be made for Kopp by STG. I haven't seen the flake pack for rolls; I'd likely be kicking up about it on here if I did!

 

[Pipeandapencil]

I want to try DNR but I read that it's identical... Escudo was too much for me already and DNR just seems ridiculous given that everything I read says they are either identical or indistinguishable. smoking pipes is running a 20% off Peterson tobac now which brings DNR to the same price as full price escudo though... is it worth the extra money? I guess the extra money pays for someone to lay them out into a circle.

 

[Sigmund]

I think Jim considered DNR somewhat different than escudo.

I think DNR is an excellent blend. Its a very refined vaper. I dont like the price point but in the EU its only a little higher than other blends. We cant get bulk so most everything is tin prices.

I just got 3 tins in the other day. For me its a also a slow burner. In a small chamber pipe I smoke 1 coin and get a 45 to 50 minute smoke. The average tin has 23 or 24 coins so thats not bad.

 

[Terry Lennox]

I want to try DNR but I read that it's identical... Escudo was too much for me already and DNR just seems ridiculous given that everything I read says they are either identical or indistinguishable. smoking pipes is running a 20% off Peterson tobac now which brings DNR to the same price as full price escudo though... is it worth the extra money? I guess the extra money pays for someone to lay them out into a circle.

I find DNR a bit sweeter. I think it may have more added sugar. Slightly less nicotine too.

 

[Terry Lennox]

I had some fresh stock DNR about 15 months ago, trad round packaging. Likewise, more recently, Charatan Rolls which might be made for Kopp by STG. I haven't seen the flake pack for rolls; I'd likely be kicking up about it on here if I did!

Good to know. I expect all the packaging to be the same eventually. STG does everything for cost so it's only a matter of time before the tins make their way through the distribution channel, me thinks.

 

[geoffs]

I want to try DNR but I read that it's identical.

Not the same. I do not have a refined palate at all but I can tell DNR is a lot sweeter, if that's your thing. I prefer Escudo. But I love 'em both.