A somewhat forward canted Dublin. Does anyone know roughly during what years this shape was produced? Are they tough to find?
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Dunhill Shape 743
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This is simply an information gathering mission, Jay! Leave me alone! The plane just came out of it's yearly annual, there is literally nothing left to do except fly her :D
I am staving off PAD by employing the strip club method. Look all you want just don't touch.
I am aware of the dating guide (as well as pipehil's dating key, which is much quicker). The pipe is a 1963 bruyere group 4, it does not have a fishtail stem.
Was more looking for any knowlege of the range of dates in which that specific shape was produced, as well as a general idea of how common it is to come across one, if anybody has any insight.
Thanks.
Was more looking for any knowlege of the range of dates in which that specific shape was produced, as well as a general idea of how common it is to come across one, if anybody has any insight.
Thanks.
I found this from SmokingPipes...
English Estates: Dunhill Bruyere (743) (F/T) (4) (A) (1963)
Product Number: 004-002-11571
Looking rather like a trim, older French briar or like something Paolo Becker may have turned some 40 years later, this "743" may not correspond to anything on Dunhill's present day shape chart, but that just amounts to the chance to own one of the marque's rarer shape renditions in a finish that's as classic as the English school itself: the timeless ruby hues of the old Bruyere. Only some minor rim darkening; otherwise condition is good.
- Daniel Bumgardner
and this...
I can't say the old "743" shape corresponds to anything on Dunhill's modern chart, for the simple reason that I've never seen it before. I don't just mean I've never seen a modern version of it, I mean I haven't seen it all - this is, as far as I can find, the only "743" we've ever had. Rather looks like something Paolo Becker would have made, circa forty years later.
- Eric N. Squires
English Estates: Dunhill Bruyere (743) (F/T) (4) (A) (1963)
Product Number: 004-002-11571
Looking rather like a trim, older French briar or like something Paolo Becker may have turned some 40 years later, this "743" may not correspond to anything on Dunhill's present day shape chart, but that just amounts to the chance to own one of the marque's rarer shape renditions in a finish that's as classic as the English school itself: the timeless ruby hues of the old Bruyere. Only some minor rim darkening; otherwise condition is good.
- Daniel Bumgardner
and this...
I can't say the old "743" shape corresponds to anything on Dunhill's modern chart, for the simple reason that I've never seen it before. I don't just mean I've never seen a modern version of it, I mean I haven't seen it all - this is, as far as I can find, the only "743" we've ever had. Rather looks like something Paolo Becker would have made, circa forty years later.
- Eric N. Squires
Me too. That's part of the reason I am intrigued if anyone has more specifics regarding the time period in which they were produced. It sounds like SP thinks there are not many of them out there, but they are trying to sell the pipe after all, was curious if that sentiment is echoed in the non-hawking community.
The pipes on SP are not the one I am referencing. It is a different pipe, also a 1963, and very clearly stamped 743 That being said, the stamping is clearly a 7 in the SP photos as well.
As far as factory mis-stamping, I'm sure that is a possibility, but this pipe certainly has a 7.
What I said still applies.
It's infinitely more likely that a "1" stamp and a "7" stamp got switched---in both cases---if:
1) Only one example of the shape has been seen by people who handle thousands of pipes per year
2) The shape is identical to the common 143
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It's infinitely more likely that a "1" stamp and a "7" stamp got switched---in both cases---if:
1) Only one example of the shape has been seen by people who handle thousands of pipes per year
2) The shape is identical to the common 143
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Dunhills are fun to collect because of their nomenclature.
Dunhills will make you insane to collect because fallible humans imprinted that nomenclature with hand tools in a little booth, and kept track of things with hand entries in paper ledgers.
They made MILLIONS of them.
Dunhills will make you insane to collect because fallible humans imprinted that nomenclature with hand tools in a little booth, and kept track of things with hand entries in paper ledgers.
They made MILLIONS of them.
I think that is part of the fun of it! Precisely for examples like this. So, the 143 was a pretty common shape, then?
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