Do Cigar, Pipe, and Cigarette Tobacco Taste Different?
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I still smoke good hand rolled cigars.
I can tell a Nicaraguan from an Honduran and a Dominican, or at least I think I can.
Not any cigars, taste remotely like cigarettes or pipe tobacco.
Even the cheap Swisher Sweets or Muriel Magnums and Dutch Master Presidents I buy taste like good cheap cigars.
It has to be a different kind of tobacco, or else fermented or cured differently,
It sounds like you haven’t smoked French Gitanes or Gauloises cigarettes.
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Are familiar with Vincent Manil?
He grows Semois and makes pipe tobacco and cigars from, all very cigar like.
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He grows Semois and makes pipe tobacco and cigars from, all very cigar like.
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I’ve smoked French cigarettes, and my favorite was Picayune “Pride of New Orleans” back in the day.
If I had to duplicate then I’d roll up some Five Brothers. Strong hard to inhale cigarette tasting cigarettes have little market in a nation used to Marlboro Reds and Camels and Luckies.
I’ve smoked cigar butts, too, and they tasted like a cigar smoked in a pipe.
Over forty years ago I’d occasionally buy a package of cigar clippings. There’s a reason there’s no market for them today. They tasted like cigars in a pipe.
The different cigar, cigarette and pipe tobacco tastes are deliberate.
With cigarettes and pipe tobacco the manufactures use not only different plants but a host of different flavorings.
Not so with hand rolled luxury cigars.
How do they do that?
If I had to duplicate then I’d roll up some Five Brothers. Strong hard to inhale cigarette tasting cigarettes have little market in a nation used to Marlboro Reds and Camels and Luckies.
I’ve smoked cigar butts, too, and they tasted like a cigar smoked in a pipe.
Over forty years ago I’d occasionally buy a package of cigar clippings. There’s a reason there’s no market for them today. They tasted like cigars in a pipe.
The different cigar, cigarette and pipe tobacco tastes are deliberate.
With cigarettes and pipe tobacco the manufactures use not only different plants but a host of different flavorings.
Not so with hand rolled luxury cigars.
How do they do that?
Wait a minute! I thought you asked a question!
Me too… the stamps on the side of the box spell it right out.
70-80% of the flavor from a cigar comes from the wrapper leaf. Chopping it up and putting it in a pipe disturbs that dynamic.
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Hypophora…
Been looking for Gintanes for awhile. Used to get them at Tinderbox, but last time I checked they no longer had them. Still had Export A. But Canadian cigarettes are little rough.
It’s the only way they can keep a consistent product, cigarettes are the processed cheese food of the tobacco industry.
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I always thought that smoking different pipe tobaccos is like trying different blends of juice (orange, apple, prune.... etc), while smoking cigars is like trying different brands of the same kind of juice (for example different brands of OJ). The difference in cigar leaf is much more subtle. Cigarettes on the other hand just taste like cigarettes!
Mr. @Briar Lee , it must be remembered that you smoke Cotton Boll in your pipes - the nuances of taste have long since left you for other lands.
I very much like your analogy…. my own experiences would align with what you have suggested in terms of pipe tobaccos, cigars, and cigarettes.
Warren, do you remember the cigarettes English Ovals> THey came in a cool box and were unfiltered. They were my favorite domestic expensive brand of smokes. I haven't seen them in years as my local b/m store carrying them.
Also if you get a chance, Cuban cigarettes were my favorites. Partagas non Filter, RyJ filters, H Upmann, Hoyo de Monterrey . I had a guy name Johnny Ortega selling me cartons for 30 bucks a carton and it was a good deal. I have no idea who would be selling them now or if they ever make it through customs like they did years ago. Never lost a shipment of cigarettes.
It is interesting to me that you can taste each method as different (intact cigar vs. chopped cigar). To me, I do not taste any difference. I have done this a few limited times and to ME, I could not discern a difference.
Out of curiosity, MIGHT it be in your case, that the differences you noticed….. could they have been a “ghosting” effect of whatever pipe tobacco(s) you had smoked previously in the pipe?
I do know that for ME, I do not smoke cigar butts nor chopped cigars in any of my pipes any longer….. because I do not like the “cigar ghost” that remained in my pipes when I did do this a few times.
With these stories... I always imagine you shopping out of people's trunks in back alleys.
Very astute of you. Yes I did my share of shopping out of the back of trunks. From cigarettes, to cigars, to pipes. All kinds of deals were available but didn't need back alleys.