Discrepancy in Escudo Tin Dating

[kasbah]

I just received an Escudo tin in a trade with a member on here and was told it has about 6 years age on it which blew me away! I decided to see if there is a datestamp on these tins and came across this guide: http://tobaccocellar.com/blog/2011/01/escudo-tin-date-codes.html
The problem is that the number sequence on this tin starts with 8 (as seen below) and there is no way it is from 1980 :P

Numbers to the left of the barcode are: 8007010404
I'm not so much going crazy trying to figure out the age, though it would be cool to know, rather I think it's interesting that the numbering on my tin goes against the numbering everyone uses to date their tins. Also, it is missing that sequence of 4 numbers on the right and is a Lane imported tin so it has gotta have some age. Maybe we can figure this mystery out together and hash it out for the next time someone comes across a tin like this.

 

[hfearly]

Maybe you need to read it as (80) 07/01/04, i.e., 2007, April, 1st? That would fit the description of 6 years of age ... almost ... ;-) Does it have the old AC Peterson logo on the front? Like this:

 

[hfearly]

Sorry for double post - server said internal error 500

 

[kcghost]

Yeah. no way this is particularly old. Made in the EU is a pretty obvious tip off that this tin is at most a few years old. Nonetheless it will still be a good smoke.

 

[kasbah]

@Hfearly, yep it has the same front sticker and I wish thinking of reading the date that way as well.
@Kcghost, why not? EU has been around much longer than a few years. Or do you mean only the newer tins have "Made in the EU" printed on them?

 

[hfearly]

@Kasbah: if the front looks the same (no Scandinavian Tobacco Group dragon thing) than it's at least 2005 or older.

 

[leonardw]

I can tell you with certainty that this tin was manufactured in 2012. This is due to the fact that Lane is listed as the distributor, and we didn't start distributing until this past April. As far as the date codes, we don't publish the code system, but there are more than just dates in that number. There's a product code, manufacturing machine number, etc. the dates themselves are by week and day of the year vs a calendar date.

 

[hfearly]

Hi Leonard,
I don't understand why Lane Ltd. wouldn't want to publish how to read a date code out of the code system? I can see why you would want to keep the specifics about Product Codes, Manufacturing Numbers, Machines, etc. a trade secret, but letting customers know from when a certain tin is dated can't harm now, can it? Would help us folks tremendously down the road to find the vintages we like. Just sayin' ;-)

 

[leonardw]

I hear you. Pretty standard industry practice for whatever reason.

 

[kasbah]

Leonard, why would it say A&C Peterson and not have the dragon Scandanavian logo? I also heard Lane distributed Escudo in the past.

 

[leonardw]

You know, now that you mention it, you are probably right. Let me do some more checking...

 

[leonardw]

Going to go out on a limb and guess 2004

 

[kasbah]

Well that's more like it Thanks for the import, Leonard! Any clue on if Escudo will finally be available in sizes larger than 50g? Might as well ask while I have you here, lol.

 

[leonardw]

Roth: I don't have a good answer unfortunately. Kasbah: no plans for a larger size at this time.

 

[kasbah]

Well, you are welcome to pass on the request for a larger size (bulk?) and date stamp Thanks for the help!

 

[gnatjulio]

Bulk would be very cool....

 

[baronsamedi]

I had some Escudo this morning. I want an 8oz tin! I don't know how many grams that is, but I want it.

 

[hfearly]

Escudo is delicious. I have a tin which is dated to my birth date and every year on my birthday, I smoke a coin If only they had made 8oz tins back then! It would last me a lifetime!

 

[cigrmaster]

Could someone decipher these two date codes for me.
1110040026
1109083026
One is Escudo and the other is Dunhill Deluxe Navy Rolls.

 

[cigrmaster]

roth, if you take the same formula and apply it to the Dunhill, what do you come up with. They both have the same amount of numbers, so could it be they use the same system?