Judge Agrees to PMTA Deadline Extension
Tobacco, nicotine manufacturers looking at 120-day reprieve from FDA deadline during coronavirus emergency
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Deeming Extension Thanks To The Coronavirus
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I haven't been keeping up with the news too much. I know about this deadline, but I'm not sure what the consequences will be.
Is there a list somewhere of tobaccos that will cease to be sold because the manufacturers aren't planning on submitting applications for them?
Are people "stocking up" on blends that will disappear? I may have misunderstood what's going on.
Is there a list somewhere of tobaccos that will cease to be sold because the manufacturers aren't planning on submitting applications for them?
Are people "stocking up" on blends that will disappear? I may have misunderstood what's going on.
As a new pipe smoker, I’d also like to know this information so I can adequately prepare for this.
Nobody really knows what will happen law wise or price wise. The doomsayers will tell you that the sky is falling. Best thing to do is to buy what you like now in the largest quantities you can.
This. If you've the means, load up. Another ongoing concern is the banning of Internet sales. If the prospect looked grim for B&M's it looks downright abysmal now with the expected recession/depression; so don't think of relying on a local store to keep supplying you. Again: load up now.
Do you see how Chambers puts up a link to the article but also tells us in one line the really important part so lazy asses like me don't have to work to get the info. Bravo Chambers, everyone should take note and thank Chambers for his understanding of how lazy some of us are.
Maybe it is just me but shouldn't the FDA be using everything in their power to help with the virus. The fact that they would even mention the deeming regs is disgusting with so many people dying.
Maybe it is just me but shouldn't the FDA be using everything in their power to help with the virus. The fact that they would even mention the deeming regs is disgusting with so many people dying.
Not sure about a total, but all of Mac Baren's HH line, many of GL Pease's blends, and all of the Dunhill/Peterson blends are on the chopping block.
Was that an insult or a compliment?
Interesting mesh of my user name as I am related to the Chambers family.
My 2 cents:
Anyting that hit the market after February of 2007. How does one know which blends that means? The best way I have found is to go to tobaccoreviews.com, look up a blend you like, and the click the button that sorts them by review date. If reviews are there from before February of 2007, then you should be in the clear.
Well Dunhill/ Peterson blends should be okay since they've been around since before 2007 right? Not so fast. Their new iteration is only a couple of months old. I'm pretty certain they will get the ax.
Anyting that hit the market after February of 2007. How does one know which blends that means? The best way I have found is to go to tobaccoreviews.com, look up a blend you like, and the click the button that sorts them by review date. If reviews are there from before February of 2007, then you should be in the clear.
Well Dunhill/ Peterson blends should be okay since they've been around since before 2007 right? Not so fast. Their new iteration is only a couple of months old. I'm pretty certain they will get the ax.
So they’re sure to get cut or there is still a chance that they’ll be unaffected?
I intend to spend the better portion of my evening researching this as I’m admittedly ignorant. However, is there a brief Cliff’s notes version I can quickly share with a few buddies who are equally uninformed and equally affected?
I intend to spend the better portion of my evening researching this as I’m admittedly ignorant. However, is there a brief Cliff’s notes version I can quickly share with a few buddies who are equally uninformed and equally affected?
I get more of an Oswald Chambers vibe from him. Preach it, Embers.Were you related to Marilyn Chambers ?
If they are not submitted to the deeming process ($25,000/blend IIRC) they will be cut.
So, if I’m understanding this correctly - if they pay $25,000/blend they can continue to be produced, in spite of being developed after 2007? So this is more of a concern for smaller companies than some of the majors? Or am I missing something important/obvious?
2 out of 3 of my favorite tobacco's are safe.
Last year I contacted Jeremy at C&D personally to ask about a blend, and was told they are filling out all the proper paperwork for their blends, and not to worry about it.
I'm not sure if anything has changed since, with the virus though.
Oh and Carter Hall has been made since before humans....
Last year I contacted Jeremy at C&D personally to ask about a blend, and was told they are filling out all the proper paperwork for their blends, and not to worry about it.
I'm not sure if anything has changed since, with the virus though.
Oh and Carter Hall has been made since before humans....
Essentially, if a tobacco product introduced on the market or modified after Feb. 15, 2007, has to go through the PMTA (premarket tobacco application) process. The FDA will evaluate the application for health risks, etc. The kicker is that some estimate that each application (one per product) will be so prohibitively expensive - at least $100,000 USD - that most manufactures will not bother and will remove the product from the market. And there is no guarantee of approval.
Products that were introduced before that date ,and not modified after that date, are exempt from this lengthy and costly process.
This summary is geared towards vaping products, but it gives a good summary:
What is a PMTA? A Simple Explanation of How It Will Affect Vapers
What is a PMTA? How does it relate to the FDA's coming vaping regulations? And how will it affect you as a vaper. Here's everything you need to know.
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Another good summary with more detail:
NATO Parses PMTA for Tobacco Retailers
FDA deadline looms for manufacturers to apply for nicotine product authorization
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As far as I understand, that is correct.
Yes, if they submit the blends for inspection, they will be allowed to continue.
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