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Oct 7, 2016
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2035 might be a start. Back in the 1990's someone at a show had some that they had baked in the oven, then re -pressed in a length of PVC using boards and c clamos for some period of time I don't recall. I think the consensus was it came pretty close.

 

oldtoby

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I completely agree with your analogy concerning Stonehaven. :puffy:

 

cigrmaster

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Dark Star and Butera Royal Vintage: Dark Stoved go through the exact same process. The Butera smokes quite nicely when I cube cut it into tiny cubes and let it dry a couple of hours. If you want the flavors of Dark Star you should be calling some small mom and pops and look for the Butera.

 

saltedplug

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Peretti Scottish Flake
Our fullest bodied flake. A blend of mature Virginias is cured with red wine and pressed into a cake and subsequently steam treated. The result is a jet-black cake with delivers loads of thick, rich smoke.
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jzbdano

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I agree saltedplug, I haven't seen it in stock for several months. I have a little from a 2 oz sample I bought and would love to have a few more ounces. It smells very McClelland like to me so I'm not optimistic it will be back.

 
May 4, 2015
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Yeah, that was made by McC, so I don't think you'll see it again. Though, I have heard tell their flakes are coming back in stock, but may "taste different". So maybe they're keeping the flake names, but sourcing them elsewhere.

 

mawnansmiff

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Oct 14, 2015
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"Though, I have heard tell their flakes are coming back in stock, but may "taste different". So maybe they're keeping the flake names, but sourcing them elsewhere."
That sounds interesting Tom as I'm a fan of their London Flake which some say was just a rebadged #2015. I shall keep my eyes peeled.
BTW, is this snippet of info internet gossip or is it from a reliable source?
Regards,
Jay.

 

hawky454

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Feb 11, 2016
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I would say that Rattray’s Dark Fragrant has a lot of similar base notes and Esoterica’s Blackpool will get ya there too.
And yes, neither of these are exact matches and in fact, I prefer both of these over Dark Star.

 

hawky454

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How does one triple age something? If you age tobacco for say a year, then age it another year then again another year.....that would make it three years aged not triple aged. Or am I missing something as usual :roll:
Regards,
Jay.
Haha! So true!

 

jzbdano

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They are probably referring to aging the leaf at 3 separate times through the process. I am not experienced with processing tobacco so if they say it's triple aged I won't doubt it.

 
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BTW, is this snippet of info internet gossip or is it from a reliable source?
That would be internet gossip. BUT, the fella said he just bought some London Flake at the shop (OOS on their website) and was told at the shop that flakes would be back in stock, but would be different flakes under the same names. Obviously this is second-hand information, third by the time you're reading it. Could be solved by a call to the shop, but I've also heard tell that they're not that great to talk to on the phone and are hesitant to give out any actual information regarding where they source stuff they don't make themselves.

 
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That sounds interesting Tom as I'm a fan of their London Flake which some say was just a rebadged #2015
It was a rebadged something McClelland, maybe with a minor top note variation? At any rate, even tobaccoreviews says their flakes are being sourced elsewhere as of March 2018. I don't know who made that edit, though.

 

dmcmtk

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All I was able to find was some McC made "private label" flake...
And now it's all gone. Where was it? McCranie's of course. :)
"New Bedford, A blend of light matured Virginias that is transformed through pressure, aging and light stoving into a beautifully dark navy flake. Rich and rewarding without being as strong or stout as traditional dark flakes."

 
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