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Jan 30, 2020
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I don’t bother much with sanitizing jars. The tobacco itself is NOT sanitized so you are just kidding yourself thinking the jar did it.

I’d usually chalk it up to not enough anti mold for the moisture % on that particular part of the tobacco.

More moisture, more inhibitors. Less moisture, less inhibitors needed.
 

burleyboy75

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I don’t bother much with sanitizing jars. The tobacco itself is NOT sanitized so you are just kidding yourself thinking the jar did it.

I’d usually chalk it up to not enough anti mold for the moisture % on that particular part of the tobacco.

More moisture, more inhibitors. Less moisture, less inhibitors needed.
thanks. Im glad to hear that. Makes me feel like this was prob just a fluke and I dont need to get nuts with sanitizing or cross contamination etc
 

andrew

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damn, i never heard that!! even with tins?
Every tobacco manufacturer says this, it's the same concept as a canned goods manufacturer saying yes of course are product is ready to consume. And it is ready to consume. Aging is a relatively new concept and mainly an American one. In the uk you go to the tobacconist, get your tin, smoke it, repeat. It's the hoarding mentality that's brought about aging mostly. Yes people say I'm putting it away to age. Does aging improve it? Sometimes to your tastes. My aging tobacci is simply a byproduct of the cad usd being at par and lax borders. But all my tins have held up fine, especially the old SG ones. The new tins I don't trust for long term storage. Luckily I only have a few
 
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burleyboy75

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Every tobacco manufacturer says this, it's the same concept as a canned goods manufacturer saying yes of course are product is ready to consume. And it is ready to consume. Aging is a relatively new concept and mainly an American one. In the uk you go to the tobacconist, get your tin, smoke it, repeat. It's the hoarding mentality that's brought about aging mostly. Yes people say I'm putting it away to age. Does aging improve it? Sometimes to your tastes. My aging tobacci is simply a byproduct of the cad usd being at par and lax borders. But all my tins have held up fine, especially the old SG ones. The new tins I don't trust for long term storage. Luckily I only have a few
Interesting take!! Ive only been smoking a pipe for about a year or so. “cellaring” was always such a common topic!! With mcclelland, germains, macbaren, sutliff etc, I came around at a perfect time to be concerned with companies going out of business. its nice to be able to have some reserve smokes.

Some tins like bijou seem to encourage waiting. I think its called the cellar series and recommends peak flavor in 5-15 years.

I hear ya though. Im sure ive bought way too much tobacco in too short a time.
 
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anotherbob

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Was looking through the cellar, noticed this. G & H dark plug purchased 5/20/25 and jarred immediately- didnt take long. First time Ive had mold infiltrate. Throw it all out, right?
Sorry to do this but. You've proven my point. When it's mold you don't tend to ask if it's mold. We get a lot of is this mold threads for plume. And I always say if it's mold you know it's mold.
 

burleyboy75

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Sorry to do this but. You've proven my point. When it's mold you don't tend to ask if it's mold. We get a lot of is this mold threads for plume. And I always say if it's mold you know it's mold.
hahahaah yep. There was no doubt here. ive only seen pictures, but this was an easy ID
 
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andrew

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Sorry to do this but. You've proven my point. When it's mold you don't tend to ask if it's mold. We get a lot of is this mold threads for plume. And I always say if it's mold you know it's mold.
It's all mold apparently. A cigar Forum did a scientific study and then expanded it to pipe tobacco and had people send in well aged samples. It was all mold. Likewise with cigars. All mold. Maybe good tasting mold, but yes. It's mold
 

sablebrush52

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you think its a bad assumption if no new mold in 6 mos to a year, that it must be good?
Yep, I think it’s a bad idea. The mold has already activated, and it’s already everywhere in the tobacco.

Mold is everywhere. It’s not a problem until it activates.

If you are determined, then I can offer a treatment, which was given to me by a much respected blender and manufacturer and you can try it.
Get a tray and sterilize it. Lay out the affected tobacco on it.
Spray it down with pure alcohol, we’re not talking booze, pure alcohol. Spray it down and soak it.
Leave it alone until the alcohol has evaporated off, might be overnight or longer, then jar.

That might work.

Otherwise it’s just going to spread.
Yep, I think it’s a bad idea. The mold has already activated, and it’s already everywhere in the tobacco.

Mold is everywhere. It’s not a problem until it activates.

If you are determined, then I can offer a treatment, which was given to me by a much respected blender and manufacturer and you can try it.
Get a tray and sterilize it. Lay out the affected tobacco on it.
Spray it down with pure alcohol, we’re not talking booze, pure alcohol. Spray it down and soak it.
Leave it alone until the alcohol has evaporated off, might be overnight or longer, then jar.

That might work.

Otherwise it’s just going to spread.
Damned screwed with site. I clicked once to send and nothing happened, so I closed out. Apparently, the issues currently affecting this site caused it to repeat my post three times.
 
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burleyboy75

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It's all mold apparently. A cigar Forum did a scientific study and then expanded it to pipe tobacco and had people send in well aged samples. It was all mold. Likewise with cigars. All mold. Maybe good tasting mold, but yes. It's mold
I've heard this also. Some must be more harmful than others, too then?
 
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anotherbob

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It's all mold apparently. A cigar Forum did a scientific study and then expanded it to pipe tobacco and had people send in well aged samples. It was all mold. Likewise with cigars. All mold. Maybe good tasting mold, but yes. It's mold
Which is certainly doesn't prove as much as people want it too. Though I always find it funny because when I was preinternet pipe smoking what I heard was that it is all mold but there is bad mold and mold like the blue in cheese mold. So in all practical applications it seems that it might be less is this mold and is this ruined tobacco or not.
 

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I just had a weird mold experience, too. I opened a tin of Germain’s Royal Jersey Cavendish and all was fine. I planned on smoking right through the tin—and it was a bit moist—so I didn’t bother jarring it up. A week into it I open it up to find gray mold lightly coating the surface. Never had that happen before; usually tobacco just gets drier as left in an opened tin. Threw it out.
 
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burleyboy75

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I just had a weird mold experience, too. I opened a tin of Germain’s Royal Jersey Cavendish and all was fine. I planned on smoking right through the tin—and it was a bit moist—so I didn’t bother jarring it up. A week into it I open it up to find gray mold lightly coating the surface. Never had that happen before; usually tobacco just gets drier as left in an opened tin. Threw it out.
wow, that bit of air finished the process? thats amazing. was that ribbon?
 
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renfield

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You’re only seeing the fruiting bodies of the mold. The mycelia are probably already throughout the tobacco. No way of knowing what the mold is without a mycologist making an evaluation. Maybe benign, maybe not.

Somewhere on the forum I’ve got a post with links to research done by British American Tobacco (IIRC) that showed that spores are carried into the smoke stream and not destroyed by the combusting tobacco.

Everyone has to make their own assessment of the risks they take. It sucks to pitch tobacco but you only get one set of lungs.
 

burleyboy75

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You’re only seeing the fruiting bodies of the mold. The mycelia are probably already throughout the tobacco. No way of knowing what the mold is without a mycologist making an evaluation. Maybe benign, maybe not.

Somewhere on the forum I’ve got a post with links to research done by British American Tobacco (IIRC) that showed that spores are carried into the smoke stream and not destroyed by the combusting tobacco.

Everyone has to make their own assessment of the risks they take. It sucks to pitch tobacco but you only get one set of lungs.
thanks! I am going to toss this. A question and a concern linger though.

I am very very confident that this mold was “in” the tobacco from the time i bought it. The jar was actually already used for some other tobacco prior. I switched it over when I got this one. No washing, just a wipe down between. No mold in the original. No mold in any other of my tobacco in fact.

If I would have smoked this moldy tobacco right when i got it in May, I would have smoked the spores then, correct?

People say mold is everywhere, just has to have right moisture. How often are we smoking “latent” mold?

Not sure how paranoid to be lol.
 

sablebrush52

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thanks! I am going to toss this. A question and a concern linger though.

I am very very confident that this mold was “in” the tobacco from the time i bought it. The jar was actually already used for some other tobacco prior. I switched it over when I got this one. No washing, just a wipe down between. No mold in the original. No mold in any other of my tobacco in fact.

If I would have smoked this moldy tobacco right when i got it in May, I would have smoked the spores then, correct?

People say mold is everywhere, just has to have right moisture. How often are we smoking “latent” mold?

Not sure how paranoid to be lol.
We’re often smoking “latent” mold. Mold spores really are everywhere and on almost everything.

We only become aware of it when it activates. There’s a reason why tobacco manufacturers include a mold inhibitor on their products.