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didimauw

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They would do that? I would expect censorship in a homebrew forum...but pipe smokers?

Oh yes we can edit anything necessary my friend! - Didimauw
See your post above!

And I will probably shorten your title as well. Makes it easier to read. Welcome!

Also, I would personally smoke cigarette tobacco in a pipe than cigar tobacco. May be cheaper that way too! As long as I have some sort of nicotine in happy!
 
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poor old man

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See your post above!

And I will probably shorten your title as well. Makes it easier to read. Welcome!

Also, I would personally smoke cigarette tobacco in a pipe than cigar tobacco. May be cheaper that way too! As long as I have some sort of nicotine in happy!
The cigarettes burned quickly and left a chemical taste. The local no name cigars are much cheaper, having avoided the taxman, but I get mixed results depending on their freshness. Addiction and economics are the sad truthes here but if I can get better value and a tasty pipe experience, i will be well chuffed
 

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looked up cavendish. Looks involved but there is plenty of sugar and rum here so maybe...... less involved than the fruit chica i make, which go well with the cheap cigars.
I make it natural/unsweetened. You can do it in a pot in the stove, but I’ve found a slow cooker easier. Essentially equal weights water and tobacco in a jar, or halve the water if you want something closer to stoved tobacco rather than cavendish. You can press it afterwards to further develop flavours.

If you enjoy gardening. Grow some goose creek red.
 

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I dont know where you are but Id scour junk and cheap antique stores or flea markets. You need a proper pipe. Cheap or old is fine. Even in France where things are overpriced you can get old no name pipes for under ten bucks. Ive got abfriend in belgium who oicked up a couple for 6 euro each. Clean it up, sanitize and then work with your tobacco. Without a real pipe it’s really a hard sell. A drug pipe isnt likely to help your experience.
Good advise but around here I suspect a bigger drug pipe is the best I will do....
 
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poor old man

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Where about are you in South America? If you are smoking those green cigars they sell in Costa Rica then you need to slice them into coins and then pack your pipe.
No green cigars down here near the pacific coast but just tried slicing one and I need a bigger pipe bowl or smaller cigar....
 
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I make it natural/unsweetened. You can do it in a pot in the stove, but I’ve found a slow cooker easier. Essentially equal weights water and tobacco in a jar, or halve the water if you want something closer to stoved tobacco rather than cavendish. You can press it afterwards to further develop flavours.

If you enjoy gardening. Grow some goose creek red.
I think that the leaves are poor quality and too fresh, I will try drying them out and if they burn better, I like the improving the taste idea. Unfortuantly if you leave anything outside here it gets stolen, plants and all
 
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I think that the leaves are poor quality and too fresh, I will try drying them out and if they burn better, I like the improving the taste idea. Unfortuantly if you leave anything outside here it gets stolen, plants and all
If you think the leaves are too fresh, you can make a kiln and try sweating/fermenting them.

And easy way to get a fairly consistent cut is to slice the stick into coins, and then cut horizontally though the pile.

As a last resort, you can try boiling your tobacco and then drying it. It will still taste like shit, but it might not be as harsh.

Another trick is once dry to gently mist with rum (or equal quantities rum/whisky), repeat this process a few times allowing the leaf to absorb the moisture
 

poor old man

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If you think the leaves are too fresh, you can make a kiln and try sweating/fermenting them.

And easy way to get a fairly consistent cut is to slice the stick into coins, and then cut horizontally though the pile.

As a last resort, you can try boiling your tobacco and then drying it. It will still taste like shit, but it might not be as harsh.

Another trick is once dry to gently mist with rum (or equal quantities rum/whisky), repeat this process a few times allowing the leaf to absorb the moisture
if I had the energy to make a kiln I would own a tandoori oven....... Will an hour in a regular gas oven help?

The rum idea seems good, I will have to pocket some of those free shots over christmas and new year
 

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Colombia. so in theory I can get hold of any fancy stuff but in reality I make do......... zumo alcohólico para pobres, is my name for my homebrew, as it is not really chica or wine

My wife’s best friend is from Bogotá. She has seen a few tobacco pipes in the market.
 

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if I had the energy to make a kiln I would own a tandoori oven....... Will an hour in a regular gas oven help?

The rum idea seems good, I will have to pocket some of those free shots over christmas and new year
You could use your oven to stove/toast your tobacco yes. But if the issue is the leaf, extra processing might not make any difference.

A kiln is just a fancy term for a sweating box. You can make it out of anything. While not the most cost efficient. I used an old fridge. This provided my insulted chamber. I used a slow cooker for heat. The main expense is a controller to turn off the slow cooker when the temp gets too hot, and then to turn it back on.

Essentially you are trying to keep your leaf in high humidity At a temperature which will be too hot for mould to grow. 4-6weeks of this is equivalent to natural ageing of 1-2 years
 
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My wife’s best friend is from Bogotá. She has seen a few tobacco pipes in the market.
Go to the Big Smoke? Not on your nelly. There are options on line but the cheaper ones look plasticy and no better than the nicer of the drug pipes that I pass on the street, shall keep my eyes open though
 
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One of the things I love about pipes vs. cigars is that I can set a bowl down for several hours and when I light it again it still tastes great. If you've ever tried to relight a cigar after an hour, you know it generally tastes horrible. Even cheap cigars cost as much as an ounce of pipe tobacco, so I don't understand the economics.

BUT, if you insist, back when I was smoking cigars I would dry box Cubans at 50% for several weeks to get them smokable. Tobacco can be quite dry and still be smokable.
 

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Can you receive a package of tobacco from the US? If so, PM me your address, I'll send you something decent to smoke for Christmas.
Not allowed, I just double checked. I took the risk once with homebrew stuff but no way a nice tobacco escapes the attention of both customs and postal worker., Still the thought is a better present than the mrs will get me, many thanks. (TBF, she gave ma a mini havana a few years back, no idea where she found it though)
 

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One of the things I love about pipes vs. cigars is that I can set a bowl down for several hours and when I light it again it still tastes great. If you've ever tried to relight a cigar after an hour, you know it generally tastes horrible. Even cheap cigars cost as much as an ounce of pipe tobacco, so I don't understand the economics.

BUT, if you insist, back when I was smoking cigars I would dry box Cubans at 50% for several weeks to get them smokable. Tobacco can be quite dry and still be smokable
About the economics.....

A pack of the cheapest non filtered ciggies lasted me a day, used to cost 3500, now 9000. A 22000 pesos packet of no name cigars (swerves the taxman) lasts me 3 weeks. Breaking them down into a pipe makes them last even longer. Tried rolling them at first but the papers cost more than the tobacco. Actual pipe tobacco is dead posh and costs a bomb,. The sad truth is I am even factoring in the cost o f matches/lighters, but that is another forum

About Cubans,

I did spend a month in Cuba and all I know is that when in the Havana I spent the nights hiding in a colonial room avoiding the sex workers, whilst smoking cigars and sipping rum...... that were my sophisticated era