Charles Manson Dies Aged 83.

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newbroom

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Jul 11, 2014
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Linda Kasabian was from a town I once lived in, in NH.

Those were some strange times.

I see that Manson was 83. He was a 'con' MAN who took advantage of directionless imaginations to the point of madness.

In his own way, he was charismatic.

 

condorlover1

Lifer
Dec 22, 2013
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But the important question not answered is did he smoke aromatics or was he a straight burley guy? Did he favor Danish freehands as opposed to Falcon Pipes and how were his blending skills? Outside of that I hope they incinerate the little sh*t and tip his ashes down a handy and nearby sewer so that there is no shrine for the next generation of mental defectives to visit!

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
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"Too bad he lived so long."
I don't know about that. In my view the death penalty is the easy way out, doing hard time for many years is far better punishment for folks like him.
We had multiple child murderer Ian Brady die a couple of months ago. No one would take on the responsibility of dealing with his remains. He was eventually cremated in secret and his ashes were tipped into the sea off Liverpool late at night with no ceremony.
Regards,
Jay.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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Extended prison time is more of a torture, but the thought of the taxpayers having to pay for the care and feeding of shitbags like that just breaks my parsimonious little heart.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Like Pol Pot, he died at an advanced age in bed. The meaning of that, I can't know. Here's a thought experiment: find in your own life someone who is as completely good as Manson was evil. I think most of us will think of someone in our lives who had no public presence or fame at all. Which makes me think.

 

daveinlax

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May 5, 2009
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He never lost that wild, deranged look, over all these years.

There was a guy at last years St Louis' Gateway pipe show who looked just like Manson in the sixties/seventies minus the X. It was spooky.
If you enjoy podcasts, I was turned on to the You Must Remember This Manson series podcast via Slates Political Gabfest. Nothing that I didn't already know but the narrator unpacks it in a creepy uncomfortable way that hooked me. 8O
http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/youmustrememberthispodcastblog/2015/5/26/charles-mansons-hollywood-part-1-what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-the-manson-murders

 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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Capital punishment was ended in California shortly after he was convicted and sentenced to San Quentin's gas chamber, but (obviously) before he ended up in it.
Had he been dealt with as he should have been---unceremoniously snuffed, and his remains liquified and poured down a sewer---think how different the world would have been in the years since.
People would say, "Charlie who?" whenever his name came up. Instead, millions of dollars was wasted on housing and medical care, countless books written about him, and virtual religions started in his name. Manson, the Rock Star Evil Icon.
Charlie, I don't spit on your grave, I shit upon it. I hope your final days were non-stop misery. :evil:

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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Here's a thought experiment: find in your own life someone who is as completely good as Manson was evil. I think most of us will think of someone in our lives who had no public presence or fame at all. Which makes me think.
Ah! It's time for the parable of the Lydian:
The liberty which we are supposing may be most completely given to them in the form of such a power as is said to have been possessed by Gyges the ancestor of Croesus the Lydian. According to the tradition, Gyges was a shepherd in the service of the king of Lydia; there was a great storm, and an earthquake made an opening in the earth at the place where he was feeding his flock. Amazed at the sight, he descended into the opening, where, among other marvels, he beheld a hollow brazen horse, having doors, at which he stooping and looking in saw a dead body of stature, as appeared to him, more than human, and having nothing on but a gold ring; this he took from the finger of the dead and reascended. Now the shepherds met together, according to custom, that they might send their monthly report about the flocks to the king; into their assembly he came having the ring on his finger, and as he was sitting among them he chanced to turn the collet of the ring inside his hand, when instantly he became invisible to the rest of the company and they began to speak of him as if he were no longer present. He was astonished at this, and again touching the ring he turned the collet outwards and reappeared; he made several trials of the ring, and always with the same result-when he turned the collet inwards he became invisible, when outwards he reappeared. Whereupon he contrived to be chosen one of the messengers who were sent to the court; where as soon as he arrived he seduced the queen, and with her help conspired against the king and slew him, and took the kingdom. Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other;,no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice. No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a God among men. Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust. For all men believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to the individual than justice, and he who argues as I have been supposing, will say that they are right. If you could imagine any one obtaining this power of becoming invisible, and never doing any wrong or touching what was another's, he would be thought by the lookers-on to be a most wretched idiot, although they would praise him to one another's faces, and keep up appearances with one another from a fear that they too might suffer injustice.
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.3.ii.html

 

prndl

Lifer
Apr 30, 2014
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To paraphrase a much wiser man, "I've never wished a man dead but, I have chuckled at more than one obituary in my time."

 

lazar

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May 5, 2015
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For a psychotic, murderous, racist, manipulative, narcissistic pedophile shitbag, he wrote some pretty good songs, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrrQ2apjVg

 
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