I don't think they make a difference in regular sauce or extra saucing or not saucing at all as to where the tin will be delivered! They pack'em and ship'em as fast as the can!
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Anybody know how to contact the company? I'm not one to go whining about things, but this is probably worth dropping them a note. Their stuff is often hard to get, and can cost a pretty penny, so to have a recipe (or batch) change so drastically (without notice) is disappointing to say the least.
I'd like to hear their official stance on the situation so that I can adjust future purchases accordingly. I also wouldn't mind a piece of SG swag to compensate for the trouble (if they offered)
I'd like to hear their official stance on the situation so that I can adjust future purchases accordingly. I also wouldn't mind a piece of SG swag to compensate for the trouble (if they offered)
I had thought about the same thing.. I wanted to confirm with at least someone else that they thought the same thing about the tobacco.
I mean yeah I spent somewhere around $60-70 on tobacco that I am not too fond of now... based on a previous tin that was totally different.
I mean yeah I spent somewhere around $60-70 on tobacco that I am not too fond of now... based on a previous tin that was totally different.
Welp, mine is also bunk. Batch 01 280, which translates to March 1st, 2019 if I did that correctly. It just smells like tobacco and hay. Absolutely zero sauce detected, whereas the tin I had 15 years ago was almost overwhelmingly sauced.
What gives?
I'll smoke some just to see, but honestly I don't even want this now. I have so many other great tobaccos to smoke.
What gives?
I'll smoke some just to see, but honestly I don't even want this now. I have so many other great tobaccos to smoke.
Smoking some now in my meer. Maybe a hint of topping detected if I retrohale and use my imagination.
I mean, it’s a pretty color and was almost dry enough out of the tin, but I won’t be buying more until I hear confirmation it has returned to form.
Cannot stress this enough- it’s not a minor difference. It’s night and day different. Avoid.
I mean, it’s a pretty color and was almost dry enough out of the tin, but I won’t be buying more until I hear confirmation it has returned to form.
Cannot stress this enough- it’s not a minor difference. It’s night and day different. Avoid.
Oh, crap I got several tins not to long ago, I hope they aren't a bust! Maybe if someone can get in touch with Me. Gawith, see if they can put some sauce on the side and send it over!
I was saying this about Full Virginia Flake earlier. It used to come sopping wet with sauce, and be a rich dark smoke. Now it's more of a light grassy flake. The conversation always veers toward "variation from year to year" and suggestions that it'll "improve with some age."
It's just a completely different product now. My immediate concern was that someone arrived at the company and started suggesting they start cutting corners and forgetting their traditional methods in favor of cost-saving measures.
I bought 40 of the 250g boxes of the Full Virginia Flake. When I opened one up to try (before promptly forgetting the others in the so-called "cellar") I was very surprised and disappointed, and after a while sold the boxes off to friends.
That having been said, for whatever reason the tinned version is somewhat better, but still by no means the product that it was, say, two years ago.
It's just a completely different product now. My immediate concern was that someone arrived at the company and started suggesting they start cutting corners and forgetting their traditional methods in favor of cost-saving measures.
I bought 40 of the 250g boxes of the Full Virginia Flake. When I opened one up to try (before promptly forgetting the others in the so-called "cellar") I was very surprised and disappointed, and after a while sold the boxes off to friends.
That having been said, for whatever reason the tinned version is somewhat better, but still by no means the product that it was, say, two years ago.
Ok so I guess I have two different lots .. two of each lot. I have no idea what lot the one I opened was because I jarred it and no longer have the tin.
so older lot is Feb 23, 2018 (lot 23 267)
Newer is Nov 2, 2018 (lot 02 276)
I’m tempted to open the older one and see if it seems better.
so older lot is Feb 23, 2018 (lot 23 267)
Newer is Nov 2, 2018 (lot 02 276)
I’m tempted to open the older one and see if it seems better.
Not FVF!! Noooo
I just paid top dollar for two new tins. Damnit. I was really looking forward to their arrival as they are another SG blend I haven’t had in 15 years.
Worst. Christmas. Ever. ?
I think something that may have been overlooked is the regulation of "flavored" tobaccos: toppings in particular are the most contentious part - the argument being fruity/candy/etc-flavored tobacco appeal to children/young adults. The same reasoning that banned flavored rolling papers here.
right but in Europe it's the regulation mainly in the naming where they can't name the flavors.. they still use them.
I have smoked GH products since the mid 1980’s, SG since the mid 1990’s. The inconsistency from time to time is part of the deal. If there is an “official” explanation, it would likely be crop variations. If you go to the trouble of digging out news stories about tobacco farming in places like Malawi (not all that hard to do) they do in fact have good years and bad years. If you want absolute consistency, the raw leaf has to be processed and blended more than Gawith does. But that means more of the flavor of what you smoke comes from the sauce jars, not the now bland raw leaf. You pays your money and takes your choice. I have smoked the lighter version of FVF that came around recently, it is different, but certainly recognizable as FVF to me.
For me, this is an acceptable explanation for FVF, but not something as heavily topped as Grousemoor.
It's literally smoking an aromatic without the topping. That's not the same as what you described.
agree. this isn't a leaf change.. it's an amount of topping/casing change. like A LOT of change.
I would be willing to bet that this would be nearly unidentifiable as Grousemoor in a blind taste test.
I usually grab a few tins of Grousemoor about every third or fourth drop. I haven’t noticed any changes. But I never thought it was “heavily” topped. Distinctive, yes.
Strongly agree.
@oldgeezersmoker I don't doubt your experience but I'm not sure what to make of this. I had a tin of Grousemoor 15 years ago that I bought at Iwan Ries. The perfume exuded by that tobacco was not subtle in any way. Tidal wave of floral/perfume bombs bursting so strong you would smell it from across the room.
You can jam your face into these latest tins and smell nothing but hay/tobacco. No topping detected. It's like the spray nozzle was clogged or broken during production.
Same here and mine was a tin from probably 2016 or 17 if I had to guess. (the one with tons of scent)
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