Gord, you’re wrong on several points but I’m done with this thread.
Everyone, happy puffing.
Everyone, happy puffing.
Just want to clarify, if someone in the US ships to me and didn’t declare properly (by mistake), I will be on a CBSA database? I’m just the innocent receiverThis is an old thread and you may or may not know all of this now, but I'm afraid you're hooped, screwed, blued and tattooed. You are now on the Canada Customs Data Base. Anytime you order from the US or Europe, your package will be scanned and you'll be nailed with our insane duties if the package is from ANY tobacco retail source anywhere. Only Australia is worse. I've brought this subject up many many times on the forum to the point where guys are sick of hearing about it. Or don't believe it. Well, believe it because I'm loathe to repeat it ever again,
I was in 7th heaven at the start because I was dealing with a firm who shipped the products out as fishing tackle. Foolishly I tried another source because they had a sale on, and I was charged tobacco duty not on just the tobacco, but on a $250 pipe calculated on the weight of $250 worth of tobacco. I'm still fighting this with Revenue Canada and customs. I'm on a fixed pension so I now have to go a different route.
Hate to tell you this but most of the respondents do not know the situation and you are now on radar. PERIOD.
You have to take the route that I've gone.
1. Buy only a few tins of tobacco from the US at a time, and keep this to your coveted few blends, suck up the duty and pay $85 a tin. I have three blends that I do this with.
2. Shop locally for a few packets a month, pay the $59 to $75 a pack or tin to keep these poor souls in business.
3. Buy from native sources, the best one being CigarChief.com in Ontario. ONLY NATIVE SOURCES ARE ALLOWED INTER-PROVINCIAL SHIPPING so don't bother to order from other Canuck sources because they can't ship. CigarChiefs sells Smokers' Pride 12oz packets for $70 Can plus shipping, God Bless 'em, but they're out of stock most of the time (go figure lol!) so you have to access their website regularly and grab as you can. And packaged tobacco is cheaper, but ranges for $25 - $60 bucks depending on their access to the product.
Oh yeah, BC is the worst of all . . . Alberta the most reasonable. But theyr'e still way more expensive than Native sources.
Good luck and hope you're still with us.
Does Customs scrutinize inter-provincial mail?Just scanned the rest of the threads on the pages I didn't have time for it this afternoon. Final comment - if you've been snagged, you're on the database. Yeah, you might get lucky but . . .
Didn't respond or comment on most of the postings, because they were are much of the same voice.
I've been fortunate a few times myself, but have adopted the program I outlined above to avoid the angst.
Yeah, you might get through without your package being scrutinized . . . . we are, after all, dealing with snivel servants who are inherently lazy. At least the ones I know are. But if you fight it, you enter another layer of bureaucracy that is a bit more insidious than the drones who stack and scan packages.
Just want to clarify, if someone in the US ships to me and didn’t declare properly (by mistake), I will be on a CBSA database? I’m just the innocent receiverIt
No, but all parcelled foreign mail goes through Canada Post which is federal. Once they scrutinize it, then the Provincial crew gets their share of the spoils. And each province has radically different taxation with respect to tobacco. Remember, this is in addition and subsequent to what happens in Ottawa.Does Customs scrutinize inter-provincial mail?
Probably but I'd sure like to know what points because I'm fighting this myself and there are both Provincial and Federal layers of involvement and they are different.Gord, you’re wrong on several points but I’m done with this thread.
Everyone, happy puffing.
Now, this common sense and wise answer should mercifully end the thread! In addition to my stated options, i've also opted for the making friends suggestion. The Carrier (Prince George) people and the Mohawks I know in Ontario, are great people and I have many good friends amongst both.Once you are flagged, workarounds would include using a different name, renting a PO box, or making friends with native first peoples (are they immune fom such search and seizure?)
After that, there are some other ideas to make inspectors stop checking packages, but they’d probably be a magnet for a felony conviction, if caught, so I won’t encourage anyone.
I've known for some time that Australia is #1. I've been educated by a couple of other Aussies, notably Oz. We're #2!!! We're #2!! Is Tasmania really a part of Australia? I've heard it doesn't have any snakes lol!I'll just leave this here but I will say you guys know very little about tax!
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No snakes, Gord this is Australia mate. Everything is trying its best to kill youI've known for some time that Australia is #1. I've been educated by a couple of other Aussies, notably Oz. We're #2!!! We're #2!! Is Tasmania really a part of Australia? I've heard it doesn't have any snakes lol!
Anyone ever ordered pipe tobacco from cigar chief ?Finally got my order from 4noggins. 5 tins, got hit with $200 customs/duty fees. Took over 3 weeks to get. Smoking Pipes and 4noggins are no go's for me now. They 're getting nailed every time seems like. Oh well...
Yes, they have better prices than typical brick & morter stores in Ontario but prices are still way high compared to the States. Selection is super limited also compared to any place in the States. Cigar Chief is probably the best of our limited options in Canada.Anyone ever ordered pipe tobacco from cigar chief ?
Looks like things are set to get even worse for our Canadian friends.
From today's newspaper:
In Canada, the department of finance published a list of US products imported into Canada that it will target with a 25% retaliatory tariff starting on Tuesday.
The list shows products that will be hit in the first round of retaliatory tariffs by Canada starting on Tuesday, and mounts to $30bn Canadian dollars’ worth of goods (about US$20bn). The impacted products include tobacco, produce, household appliances, firearms and military gear.
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Trump says EU tariffs will ‘definitely happen’ as Mexico, Canada and China retaliate
Trump takes softer line on UK, saying ‘I think that one can be worked out’, while Mexico and Canada vow levies and to strengthen ties with each otherwww.theguardian.com
ThanksYes, they have better prices than typical brick & morter stores in Ontario but prices are still way high compared to the States. Selection is super limited also compared to any place in the States. Cigar Chief is probably the best of our limited options in Canada.