Butz-Choquin Gone? Guess I Missed It.

[trouttimes]

Just heard that Butz-Chhoquin is done. I thought they were part of a big group that included Comoy. What does this mean for Comoy?

 

[Bengel]

Just heard that Butz-Chhoquin is done. I thought they were part of a big group that included Comoy. What does this mean for Comoy?

I like the two I have, though I could never spell or pronounce

 

[trouttimes]

I can't say it or spell it or so it seems. ?

 

[irishearl]

Where did you hear that? Have but 1 but it's 1 of my favorite bulldogs.

 

[smudgersmissingleg]

A £49 BC was my first pipe, great little smoker as well.
This is a real shame as a Millesime 2018 was on my list of future pipe acquisitions, I suppose now I'll have to move it up the list if I want one.

Chris.

 

[trouttimes]

I heard it from a friend in Saint-Claude, France that the government liquidators are taking control. I don't know for sure. My French is not so good. That's why ask the experts here.

 

[Daniele Pipa]

I'm sad. they were good pipes

 

[Chasing Embers]

I like the two I have, though I could never spell or pronounce

Boots-show-can

 

[didimauw]

Boots-show-can

Seriously??

Butts show quin? I've been reading it wrong all these years?

 

[jpmcwjr]

There's a tiny bit of a 'w' sound in the last word, and the 'n' is silent, but the first two words are on.

 

[Chasing Embers]

There's a tiny bit of a 'w' sound in the last word, and the 'n' is silent, but the first two words are on.

Like La Croix?

 

[greeneyes]

BC is one of the strong brands in the Arango portfolio. I wouldn't think that the brand itself is disappearing, but what's more likely is the sad possibility that its production will be relocated from its ancestral home to somewhere more "cost-effective."

 

[jpmcwjr]

Like La Croix?

Not quite. The latter is a bit like "La Croy" and Choquin is a bit more like Show-Qwaah. Though the last syllable is clipped, something I don't know how to show in letters, but it's not dragged out as we'd say "ah" or "eh".

 

[Chasing Embers]

Not quite. The latter is a bit like "La Croy" and Choquin

Ah, gotcha!?

 

[crawdad]

And all this time I thought it was butts-chokin’

 

[armonts]

they say: "butss-shokiiin" like the "pain", the "vin" not shokinne like at your home

It was the 2nd pipe manufacturer in St Claude, they are in " judicial liquidation" which means in France that everything is stopped / sold to settle the debts (the wages, but especially in priority the taxes and the debts for the state … )

We hope that there will be a buyer but the activity of the pipes has diminished!

 

[mikethompson]

So moving to Italy then? I feel that's where makers go to make their 'cost effective' brands. Nothing against Italian brands of course, but is the labour there cheaper or something?

 

[armonts]

The workforce is a little less expensive in Italy but I do not think, when it works it remains in St. Claude is a bit their image, it dated back to 1858, otherwise it becomes a simple sales site .
(I think they also distributed Dunhill)

Sometimes with a little luck the brand is taken over by a bigger one, because the name is known, but sometimes it is not the same quality as the origin ...

 

[Daniele Pipa]

It's confirmed. The Bc have closed September 17. I have a friend who works in the field

 

[madox07]

The news around Europe hit a couple of weeks back, insolvency it seems. I for one never kept them in too high regard, sort of like low to mediocre quality, like Angelo or other common names around here. It is a pity though ... they had quite some tradition.