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You deserve a lot of credit for learning from this terrible experience. Really. Many people would react with blind rage at such an event, but the fact that one of your primary concerns is to get a safer place to store your guns is really something. If everyone were like you, I suspect that gun related crime would be much lower than it is.
It's terrible that we live among thieves, but the occupation of thievery is as old as the human race and it might do well to prepare accordingly, as I'm sure we all know that this dark trade will not end any time soon.
I was surprised at how many postings also included "my guns were stolen too." Maybe it would be an interesting project to subsidize gun safes. And for those who don't use guns, well, it'll be a pretty slick tobacco cellar.
I too have guns, but only shotguns, so maybe they're not so appealing to most thieves. Still, whenever I pick mine up to go hunting, I can't ever get the feeling out of my head that I am holding something with truly awesome power. They demand a hell of a lot of care and respect. A close friend of mine lost his brother to a gun that should have been locked in a safe. That's what prompted me to get a safe. Guns carry a very heavy burden of extra responsibility, in my opinion, because of their incredible power.
It's encouraging that you have the presence of mind to worry about such things just after you've been burgled. It's commendable. Just get a big one to lock up your tobacco.
Hell, you're probably pre-empting some new tobacco laws that will be on the horizon, so you can cover all your bases in one go!
Good luck with the clean up and putting the mess back together and behind you. You sound like a hell of a guy, and it's terrible something like this happened to you.
It's terrible that we live among thieves, but the occupation of thievery is as old as the human race and it might do well to prepare accordingly, as I'm sure we all know that this dark trade will not end any time soon.
I was surprised at how many postings also included "my guns were stolen too." Maybe it would be an interesting project to subsidize gun safes. And for those who don't use guns, well, it'll be a pretty slick tobacco cellar.
I too have guns, but only shotguns, so maybe they're not so appealing to most thieves. Still, whenever I pick mine up to go hunting, I can't ever get the feeling out of my head that I am holding something with truly awesome power. They demand a hell of a lot of care and respect. A close friend of mine lost his brother to a gun that should have been locked in a safe. That's what prompted me to get a safe. Guns carry a very heavy burden of extra responsibility, in my opinion, because of their incredible power.
It's encouraging that you have the presence of mind to worry about such things just after you've been burgled. It's commendable. Just get a big one to lock up your tobacco.
Hell, you're probably pre-empting some new tobacco laws that will be on the horizon, so you can cover all your bases in one go!
Good luck with the clean up and putting the mess back together and behind you. You sound like a hell of a guy, and it's terrible something like this happened to you.
Watched a great very informative video today on gun safes, might worth a watch. On youtube and forgive but I don't know how to post videos. Look up Gun Safes "The Truth" by Weapons education.
Hey shain, post the link as a URL and it will post the video. Same as posting an animated gif from Photobucket.
First off I'm terribly sorry for what your obviously going through, it truly does suck.
My guess is with that many firearms taken the super genius that stole them will more than likely attempt to turn some or all of them into cash, quickly. Let the police do their thing.
You, check Craigslist, (yes, they do sneak guns on there). Post on all the handgun forums if you are registered there and get the word out to as many people that you can that might be going to gun shows and the like. If it were just one or two handguns I'd say you were screwed in ever hoping to retrieve them but you have quite a list there and just maybe......
My guess is with that many firearms taken the super genius that stole them will more than likely attempt to turn some or all of them into cash, quickly. Let the police do their thing.
You, check Craigslist, (yes, they do sneak guns on there). Post on all the handgun forums if you are registered there and get the word out to as many people that you can that might be going to gun shows and the like. If it were just one or two handguns I'd say you were screwed in ever hoping to retrieve them but you have quite a list there and just maybe......
Promising update:
Two officers came to the house late tonight. They were definitely excited. They asked us again to describe my wife's S&W M&P 9 Shield. Well... that's not too hard to do. It's a popular, distinctive looking little compact.
Then they asked what kind of bullets were in it. We told them. They smiled big. It was the answer they had hoped for. So then the one held up a printout of a computer screen snapshot.
It was someone showing off a newly acquired S&W M&P 9 Shield. We are thinking it was my wife's gun. The officers wouldn't tell us more, just needed us to verify that could be her gun in the photo. But it seems to us -- we're hoping this anyway -- that one of their suspects proudly posted the damn thing online. If we're right, it exonerates my stepson's friend.
We're too excited, worried we're getting our hopes up. But what else could that mean?
They sure seemed happy when we said 147 gr Gold Dot HPs.
*fingers crossed*
Two officers came to the house late tonight. They were definitely excited. They asked us again to describe my wife's S&W M&P 9 Shield. Well... that's not too hard to do. It's a popular, distinctive looking little compact.
Then they asked what kind of bullets were in it. We told them. They smiled big. It was the answer they had hoped for. So then the one held up a printout of a computer screen snapshot.
It was someone showing off a newly acquired S&W M&P 9 Shield. We are thinking it was my wife's gun. The officers wouldn't tell us more, just needed us to verify that could be her gun in the photo. But it seems to us -- we're hoping this anyway -- that one of their suspects proudly posted the damn thing online. If we're right, it exonerates my stepson's friend.
We're too excited, worried we're getting our hopes up. But what else could that mean?
They sure seemed happy when we said 147 gr Gold Dot HPs.
*fingers crossed*
That's excellent news. Gotta love social media for provoking dimwits to shine. I'll keep my fingers, toes, and eyes crossed that you get your goods back.
That's great. I've had my house burglarized three times. Unfortunately, the cops were worthless, wouldn't even take fingerprints. I love it when criminals post their haul on Facebook. Some girl robbed a bank, then posted her cash and drugs online. Wearing the same shirt. Didn't even blur her face. When she was being led to the police cruiser, she was wearing the Same. Damn. Shirt. I hope you get your stuff back, and the criminals get their felony time in jail.
PS Gold Dots are good rounds in any caliber.
PS Gold Dots are good rounds in any caliber.
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Having been a victim of armed robbery as well as multiple home and business burglaries, I am very sympathetic. Thankfully not as many valuables were taken as originally thought and of course, no one was hurt
Alarm system? Central station?
Not a solution but it can help
Having been a victim of armed robbery as well as multiple home and business burglaries, I am very sympathetic. Thankfully not as many valuables were taken as originally thought and of course, no one was hurt
Alarm system? Central station?
Not a solution but it can help
Well first off, my condolences to you 12pups. On the Suckitude Scale, that has to rank pretty high. Good news that the damage wasn't as bad as initially thought, and I hope that the lead on a perp pans out. I worry about this every time that I leave the house unoccupied. We don't have any crime to speak of here, but it's the local delinquent factor that is the great unknown. There is certainly a much higher quotient of worthless bag-o-shit kids these days, and one can only hope that they pick on an occupied, armed house before they get to yours.
All of my powder-actuated plumbium launchers are kept in some very serious safes. Not "gun safes", those are mostly worthless, and easily opened with the tools that most of us have stored withing 15 feet of the safes. If you want a real safe, look around for a bank service company. There is usually one in every metropolitan area. These are companies that sell and service bank equipment. Most of them will have a stock of old floor safes, at reasonable prices. The one near me also had racks of ancient safe deposit boxes. Nothing will stop a determined burglar, but you can slow them down. My safes also have a unique feature: Large glass vials of liquid tear gas are secured to the inside of the vault where a burglar would attempt to drill or torch cut the lock. I like the idea of a perp getting blasted by that. I think that this it was common practice way back when to install this, but I've never seen it before or since.
After reading your post, though, I'll be installing hidden cameras. If you can't stop them from robbing you, you can at least help send them to jail.
My best wishes in recovering your property, and in recovering your sense of safety in your own home.
All of my powder-actuated plumbium launchers are kept in some very serious safes. Not "gun safes", those are mostly worthless, and easily opened with the tools that most of us have stored withing 15 feet of the safes. If you want a real safe, look around for a bank service company. There is usually one in every metropolitan area. These are companies that sell and service bank equipment. Most of them will have a stock of old floor safes, at reasonable prices. The one near me also had racks of ancient safe deposit boxes. Nothing will stop a determined burglar, but you can slow them down. My safes also have a unique feature: Large glass vials of liquid tear gas are secured to the inside of the vault where a burglar would attempt to drill or torch cut the lock. I like the idea of a perp getting blasted by that. I think that this it was common practice way back when to install this, but I've never seen it before or since.
After reading your post, though, I'll be installing hidden cameras. If you can't stop them from robbing you, you can at least help send them to jail.
My best wishes in recovering your property, and in recovering your sense of safety in your own home.
That definitely sounds like good news, hopefully they will have this wrapped up quickly for you. It really is amazing what people will post on the internet.
Haven't been on,so late here.
Sorry to hear this,and I agree - it's an inside job. Glad to know that the police have some leads. Happily, people who commit crimes like this tend not to be too bright,and do stuff like this.
Your concern about your guns reminds me of an essay by a columnist in one of our Detroit papers, years ago. He had been an NCO in Europe during WWII,and accepted the sidearm of a German officer as the German unit surrendered to the Americans. He kept it as a souvenir. Did all the right things - registered it, took good care of it, kept it safe. He was burglarized, and the gun was stolen. He regretted having even kept it - one more gun in the hands of someone who was going to use it in the wrong way.
Sorry to hear this,and I agree - it's an inside job. Glad to know that the police have some leads. Happily, people who commit crimes like this tend not to be too bright,and do stuff like this.
Your concern about your guns reminds me of an essay by a columnist in one of our Detroit papers, years ago. He had been an NCO in Europe during WWII,and accepted the sidearm of a German officer as the German unit surrendered to the Americans. He kept it as a souvenir. Did all the right things - registered it, took good care of it, kept it safe. He was burglarized, and the gun was stolen. He regretted having even kept it - one more gun in the hands of someone who was going to use it in the wrong way.
I hope you get that little bitch!
And I wouldn't beat myself up over not having the dogs around. If the robber was someone who's familiar with the place, they could calm the dogs down pretty easily. And some people aren't above killing dogs to shut them up.
And I wouldn't beat myself up over not having the dogs around. If the robber was someone who's familiar with the place, they could calm the dogs down pretty easily. And some people aren't above killing dogs to shut them up.
Another good point.
The thought that sobered me up, though, was how much I am putting my dogs in danger, relying on them to be our defense. Even if they were guard dogs (they are not, simply Labs: good as alarm dogs most of the time), they would be "dealt with" by a determined intruder.
And I really can't bear that thought. I think I just realized my dogs need my protection just as much as my IRS dependents do. Dogs are for fetching me back my ducks and pheasants. I'm thinking locks and alarm systems are about as much security as I can get when I'm not home.
You know... so much of this is stuff I hadn't thought of before. A real wake up call, isn't it.
The thought that sobered me up, though, was how much I am putting my dogs in danger, relying on them to be our defense. Even if they were guard dogs (they are not, simply Labs: good as alarm dogs most of the time), they would be "dealt with" by a determined intruder.
And I really can't bear that thought. I think I just realized my dogs need my protection just as much as my IRS dependents do. Dogs are for fetching me back my ducks and pheasants. I'm thinking locks and alarm systems are about as much security as I can get when I'm not home.
You know... so much of this is stuff I hadn't thought of before. A real wake up call, isn't it.
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