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Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Best is in the tastes of the beholder. I enjoy C&D English blends with burley in bulk, like Old Joe Krantz, Billy Budd with cigar leaf, Bayou Night, Tuggle Hall, Stratfordshire, and Mountain Camp. Since I'm a burley devotee, I appreciate the inclusion of burley whether as a base or condiment.

Nat Sherman made an excellent English with burley as a condiment, blend 536, which was sold both by the tin and in bulk at their Manhattan store, now long-closed. That's about the most refined version of an English, with or without burley, that I have smoked, though that is highly subjective.
 

ClenchedBilliard

Starting to Get Obsessed
May 19, 2021
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My absolute favorite bulk English lineup is : C&D Mountain Camp, Watch City The Churchwarden, and Wilke Crystal Palace and #400. I’m a newcomer to Wilke, but man do they make some great English blends!
 

Reggie_Magoo

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Nov 3, 2022
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Yes my fault should have said what are english blends I need to try I've had father Dempsey and Billy Budd which I both enjoyed just trying to try other brands I've been look at watch city and and L.J pertti thanks for all the help I've got some shopping to do this an great forum glad I found it
 
Ok, much better. Now, I can elaborate... C&D Star of the East Flake is a sour yet savory English, like a creamy buttermilk. It is unique in that way, not having had another one that has had that same level of sourness. If smoked slowly, it becomes a delicious taste that you can savor for long periods of time. I really enjoy this one in the winter, especially when cozied up to the fire pit on the backporch.
 

FLDRD

Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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Ok, much better. Now, I can elaborate... C&D Star of the East Flake is a sour yet savory English, like a creamy buttermilk. It is unique in that way, not having had another one that has had that same level of sourness. If smoked slowly, it becomes a delicious taste that you can savor for long periods of time. I really enjoy this one in the winter, especially when cozied up to the fire pit on the backporch.
Mmm, I think I'm going to have to stop looking at that tin on my shelf and pop it pretty soon. You make it sound like something I'll really enjoy.

Edit: after thinking about it, (and checking an online pic) I don't have the flake version...

In your experience / opinion are they the same in flavor or distinctly different?
 
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Mmm, I think I'm going to have to stop looking at that tin on my shelf and pop it pretty soon. You make it sound like something I'll really enjoy.

Edit: after thinking about it, (and checking an online pic) I don't have the flake version...

In your experience / opinion are they the same in flavor or distinctly different?
No, I smoke both. I mean there are differences, but both have that sourness I love.
 
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Jul 26, 2021
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While not a big Latakia fan unless the mood strikes, I enjoy Byzantium (it has some Perique) while Balkan Supreme is a standard English blend.

Sometimes Habana Daydream hits the spot and other times I dump it after a few puffs. It has cigar leaf and black Cavendish and I need to be in the right mood to enjoy it.
 
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