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zanthal

Lifer
Dec 3, 2011
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Pleasanton, CA
Here is the pipe that took two weeks coming 6300 miles from the Ukraine, that I just unwrapped and smoked tonight for the first time:
ukrainian-stander-pipe1.jpg

I bought it here if you'd like to see other pipes from the same craftsman.
This is my first briar pipe that didn't come pre-smoked. Before I go any further I had better give you the pros:
For the price, I don't think I'll ever find a better new pipe, unless it's from the same maker. I got this pipe (after several days of online research and shopping) to replace my Dr Grabow Grand Duke. I am thoroughly pleased.
I bought this one in particular for three reasons ...
one, you can't beat being able to put the thing down without a special pipe stand.
two, in case you can't tell from the picture, it's a pretty massive pipe. The bowl is about 3/4 of an inch thick all the way around and underneath, yet it is still light and comfortable to smoke in your teeth.
three, the bowl diameter may be fairly standard, but it's a little over two inches deep. After I break it in and feel comfortable tamping it down packed brimming full, I'm sure it'll smoke for a good 45 minutes.
The cons, well there's really only one that was unexpected, but it doesn't concern me much.
The outside of the pipe is almost flawlessly shaped. The interior, though, shows that it was very likely made by hand without the absolute best of carpentry tools. There are some imperfections in the interior, none of which, though, negatively effect it's smoking. It's just not uniform in every way like a Dr Grabow, which are nearly identical in shape and really only vary significantly by the grain and polish of the briar.
This leads me to the original subject at hand, breaking it in. Like I said above this is my first new, unsmoked briar pipe. I followed these excellent instructions on breaking in a fresh briar pipe. I packed it loosely but full, and smoked it gently and completely.
It was more unpleasant than I had gathered from what others have said about the experience. My usual aromatic which goes by the name of "Corinthian" was hard to taste after the first 10 puffs over what I figure had to be the smoke of the burning, unsmoothed briar of the interior. You may or may not be able to tell from the photo but there is a black coating of some kind that can be seen all of the way to the bottom of the bowl.
I actually finished smoking the first fill about three hours ago, and I'm still a little nauseous. I know it isn't the tobacco that's making me feel this way, I've smoked a similar amount of the same type of tobacco in a shorter period of time with very good results and none of what I'm feeling now. I've actually finished a quite large cigar in an hour and didn't feel even close to this unsettled.
My question for the wise and knowing ... is this reasonably common? Should I be concerned and find another way to break in the pipe?
Thanks for your opinions

 

tobakenist

Lifer
Jun 16, 2011
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Middle England
I should think it is Pear wood coming from the Ukraine, I have never smoked one but there are a few Mr Brogg fans on this forum and they make Pear wood pipes as well as Briar, I have read that they burn a bit hotter than Briar and that it takes a few bowls to break in .

 

bigvan

Lifer
Mar 22, 2011
2,192
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If it makes you sick to smoke it, don't smoke it! Nausea is NOT part of the normal break-in process.

 

rigmedic1

Lifer
May 29, 2011
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A black coating indicates to me that they precarbed the bowl. This may be burning off, and giving you a bad taste, nausea, etc. I suspect after a about 10 bowls, you should have enough cake on the sides to squelch it. I would recommend going half full for about 10 bowls, get a good cake and heel, then going with full bowls.

 

dylan793

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 12, 2011
281
1
Buchanan, GA
I guess i'll play the broken record here. Doesn't look like briar, and nausea should never be part of breaking in a pipe. Sorry you're having a bad experience :(

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
31
Birmingham, AL
Skip.... whirrr... Skip.... whirrr....

I guess i'll play the broken record here. Doesn't look like briar, and nausea should never be part of breaking in a pipe. Sorry you're having a bad experience :(
I'd be concerned about the type of wood the pipe is actually made from...
nausea should never be part of breaking in a pipe.
Skip.... whirrr... Skip.... whirrr....

 

jchaplick

Lifer
May 8, 2011
1,702
10
looks very much like the mr brog pear pipe i have, granted im not an expert on grain, i do have to say, that never made me sick. personally, because i dont have too much money, i would stick it out and hope, but if it continues for another 5 smokes, id throw it out the window

 

bambam

Can't Leave
Jun 22, 2011
393
9
Virginia
I purchased one from the same ebay store and after about 5 bowls it will start to smoke A LOT better, I sent them a message when I was looking at mine and they swore it was briar, regardless after a few bowls it will smoke well for you. I would suggest using something like Prince Albert or Half/Half to break it in, I hope that after the break in process yours smokes as well as mine does!!!! :puffy:

 

juni

Lifer
Mar 9, 2010
1,184
15
That is one of my concerns about Ukranian pipes. The material they use.
I am breaking in a non pre carbed pipe at the moment and the very light taste of briar is actually quite pleasant, and not nauseating at all.

 

zanthal

Lifer
Dec 3, 2011
1,835
1
Pleasanton, CA
Thanks everyone.
I'm glad to hear this probably isn't $40 worth of firewood.
I'm not quite able to tell by appearance alone whether it's briar or pearwood. The seller has a very long excellent feedback record and it's hard to believe that if he was trying to pass off something as briar he wouldn't have been called on it openly in feedback many times over.
I think I need to do a little test ... that first fill last night was with a fresh 2 ounces of new Corinthian that I've never smoked before ... I doubt it but maybe it is a bad batch of tobacco.
Either way, I suspect bambam is right and that whatever is causing the yuck feeling will burn off fairly soon.
I will be pretty pissed if it doesn't! Everything else about the pipe is awesome.

 

jchaplick

Lifer
May 8, 2011
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10
it definitely is a cool looking pipe, and just so you know, i wasnt saying i know for sure it was pearwood, just looks similar to my pear pipe in the grain, and pear isnt bad, mine smokes very very well! Good luck with it bud :puffy:

 

zanthal

Lifer
Dec 3, 2011
1,835
1
Pleasanton, CA
Yeah it's a tough judge and the pipe I received doesn't seem to be the exact same one in the picture. The one I got was the same design but has a darker, richer tone and a bit different grain.
I'm glad to say that the second fill is much sweeter than the first, so I suspect I was probably breaking it in poorly for a first smoke and that's why it got nasty, or perhaps it's just a by-product of the bowl coating they use.

 

aussielass

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 18, 2011
513
1
Definitely looks to be pear to me.
I had one bowl from my new Ukranian Pear Pipe, laid it aside and don't know that I'll ever be able to go back to it, it tasted vile from start to finish.
The only thing I could think of that may help a little is coating the inside liberally with alcohol and letting the crap coating, stain, or whatever the black muck is, burn off - I may give that a try before hurling it in the bin.
It's got me beat how people rave about the smoking qualities, how they feel in the hand etc. with these super cheap, mass market "pear" pipes ... I'd rather spend the extra and buy a quality estate briar for my knock-about, in the car type pipe, than acquire one of these again ... at least they have substance and real tangible quality look about them. To me, briara just look "the goods", pears etc look cheap and insipid.

 

jchaplick

Lifer
May 8, 2011
1,702
10
I love my pear pipe, maybe i just got lucky, its mr brog, and there was some taste in the beginning, but it wasnt even an unpleasant one, i think now, it tastes awesome, no difference to briar to me

 

zanthal

Lifer
Dec 3, 2011
1,835
1
Pleasanton, CA
I almost bought a Mr Brog instead of the one above, actually.
aussielass, I was tempted to the same, the first fill was almost more than I could stomach. I can say though the second was MUCH better (but not perfect), and I figure it will be just as good a smoke as any briar pipe I have once it has 5-10 bowls through it.

 

juni

Lifer
Mar 9, 2010
1,184
15
Maybe get some fine sandpaper and remove the cr*p inside the bowl, aussielass?

 

aussielass

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 18, 2011
513
1
Good idea Juni, a ruddy good idea! Darn, and I was so looking forward to a "bowl bon-fire" :)
I won't name names, but mine was from the "preferred" or best known pear-wood maker.

 
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